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Old 21st Nov 2018, 09:41
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Any news ? . None on my side
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Old 24th Nov 2018, 19:26
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Application and documents sent more than one month ago ... Not even an acknowledgment of receipt
same here... i will send an email
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Old 25th Nov 2018, 07:16
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Did that 2 times ... Nothing
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Old 26th Nov 2018, 17:27
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Did that 2 times ... Nothing
It would interst to know from recente candidates how was the simulador test , Technical interview, and final interview?
did any non portuguese national passed?
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Old 3rd Dec 2018, 08:07
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Any update ??
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Old 1st Jan 2019, 10:51
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Latest news
The company continues to place ads uncontrollably.
Recently the Pilots' Union called on TAP because of a controversial issue that began in September.
Where candidates would have to pay for training. € 30000. Something that never happened.
The union asked for a hearing, but TAP did not cooperate.
It means that TAP does not comply with what is in the collective bargaining agreement.
This imposition high discriminatory to those who do not come to celebrate the contract of employment. For example a pilot enters the training and then does not sign the contract and will work elsewhere? Those who decide to stay are required to pay and this is discriminatory.

The justification of incorporation in the progression and professional career of the costs with the training, obviously that was a criterion that took to determinate amount of renumbering does not appear in the text of the collective agreement of work, that was made and presuppose this fact, that is to say TAP disrespeita what he knows and can not ignore.

The recognition that the imposition of the payment of training constitutes a limitation on the freedom to work, the collective labor agreement regulates. TAP confesses that the imposition of these conditions on pilots who are members of the union violates this agreement by seeking to establish a less favorable regime in breach of national law, Article 476.

This is all being evaluated in legal therms.
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Old 1st Jan 2019, 11:00
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In relation to EASA licenses.

In fact, companies are desperate to get drivers.

TAP went to Brazil to make presentations.

And because of those who do not have the EASA license how will it be?

It is important to know if there is an exception mechanism or other conditions that favor the contraction of pilots in this situation, or who can convert the licenses, to satisfy the objectives of an operator or operators, which does not really have to comply with the rules of the European Union .

ANAC has an uncompromising position in the defense of what is regulated and in meeting the high standards of quality and safety required by the EASA license, and seeks to confer this on its holders.

The union was available to collaborate.

So nothing new about this licensing issue.
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Old 18th Jan 2019, 19:54
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Tao es un timo

Permítanme escribir en español. No soy piloto,no dominó el inglés a vuestro nivel pero se lo que esta pasando en TAO con el reclutamiento pues tengo información a través de conocidos que se han presentado. Tras superar varias fases del proceso, fueron convocados para simulador y entrevista técnica y final. A unos los convocaron a horas intempestivas de madrugada y nadie estaba allí,a otros los convocaron con 24 horas de antelación y son de España. Unos con notas altas en teórico,otros no tanto. Simulador,5 minutos, sin plan de vuelo,,sin vuelo,2 preguntas y fuera. Entrevista de 3 minutos de duración y les comunican que no son aptos. Como que no son aptos si con ese tipo de pruebas lo que no son aptos son ellos y sus pruebas. Una verdadera tomadura de pelo,un engaño. Con el coste económico que supone ir a Lisboa,estar allí y para nada. Unos incluso son licenciados universitarios en la carrera de aviación,perfectamente preparados. Que no diga TAO que no tiene pilotos, es mentira.Sin escrúpulos.Un trato denigrante hacia estas personas. Jugando con las personas y con su ilusión.
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Old 18th Jan 2019, 22:42
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really mean company

Is really ashamed how this company,main Company, organizes and treats the candidate, they call with 24/48 hours notice, selection divided in 5-6 days not in sequence,"psycho" test divided in 3 days on a computer 20 years old, Pilots have to pay everything by themselves resulting in a selection costing around 1000 euro , and specially teasing foreigners since at the end they only hire Portugueses.
I accept that we all can fail a selection, but dear TAP your way to make selection is awful, start respect people.

If you are a non Portuguese guy, I strongly recommend you to don't go,I know the wish to fly for a Major growing company is big...but this is pure xxxxx

In the other hand...good luck to all that will try.
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Old 19th Jan 2019, 07:46
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Ciertamente no se presenten

Ayer tuve conocimiento de las aventuras que tuvieron que pasar candidatos españoles.Se han tenido que desplazar varias ocasiones a Lisboa,los ordenadores no funcionaban y tuvieron que prolongar la estancia para repetir las pruebas al día siguiente,no se les atendió a la hora estipulada,avisados con 24 horas de antelación para simulador sin indicarles plan de vuelo. Uno de ellos había logrado una nota muy elevada en teórico y licenciado universitario en operaciones aéreas. Jóvenes todos con ilusiones forjadas que se las han echado a tierra. Con preparación elevada en simuladores que allí ni tocaron. Dos examinadores en el simulador,uno preguntaba,con mala audición,2 preguntas y se acabó la prueba. Debieron ver que al no enviarle plan de vuelo algo raro sucedía pero la juventud y la ilusión les cegaron y no pensaron más. Entrevista con 2 preguntas personales y 2 teóricas. 3 minutos de entrevista y fuera. Día siguiente reciben mail con resultado " unfit". Duración de todo el proceso, 3 meses, desde noviembre 2018. A uno de ellos me dicen que lo convocaron a simulador a las 5 a.m.hora portuguesa y allí no había nadie para recibir.
Me gustaría dirigirme al Ceo de la compañía. No dispongo de dirección mail. Si alguien la tiene por favor la facilite. Esto debería hacerse público en medios de prensa locales. Es lamentable. No pueden decir que andan buscando 300 pilotos,roadshow en Madrid y publicidad ,cuando después sucede esto. Si no cumplían el perfil deseado,no se les convoca desde el primer momento.
No se puede dar este trato a nadie. No se puede jugar con las personas,más siendo gente que quiere empezar y tirar les ilusión,méritos y dignidad por los suenos.
Gracias por permitir exponer esto que creo es del interés de muchos para saber a que atenerse
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Old 19th Jan 2019, 18:29
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That’s how Portugal works. They have an expression “FOR ENGLISH TO SEE"
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Old 28th Jan 2019, 15:09
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High demanding for F/O continues.

Last week they received one fo 2 unexpected 321NEO. They where from PRIMERA with on 180 cycles. These aircraft are added to the renewal fleet plan. TAP decided to remove the ACT’s placed on these aircraft.

The 320NEO LR are coming soon. They will fly from OPO/EWR/OPO, LIS/IAD/LIS , LIS/ TLV/LIS and to Natal in Brasil.

Some rumors, next year to Istambul.

Also 2 more 330 NEO where introduced to the fleet. Meanwhile Salvador da Baia in Brasil is the 2nd destination introducing this type. Now 3 330NEO. The actual 330-300 will phase-out. The A340 are starting the phase-out at the end of the year. The oldest 319 and 320 also 4Q2019

They removed the ATR72 from LIS/OPO/LIS, due to several operational problems. ATR72 is not certified for ILS CAT2 and RNAV GNSS. Porto weather, during winter has a lot of fogs and low ceilings .

Lisbon Airport the traffic ached their maximum capacity. that every day there are a lot of delays. So they decided to operate with A320 fleet between these 2 destinations. Sometimes they use the E190.

In future Lisbon will have a secondary airport, Montijo, on the other side of Tejo River. Actually it is a Portuguese Airforce Base.
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 14:59
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Does someone know about the roster pattern at TAP ?

Thanks
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Old 22nd Feb 2019, 08:43
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Originally Posted by IFLYyouBREATH
Does someone know about the roster pattern at TAP ?

Thanks
Flexible Roster, comes out on the 15th of the previous month and you have 10 days OFF per month.
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Old 24th Feb 2019, 19:54
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Some recent applicants received an email that all admissions are suspended. At moment there a lot of trains from last summer classrooms that didn’t start their training, in simulator or line training.
Company is facing difficulties to obtain simulators slots outside off Portugal.
Some of them are experienced on Airbus FBW.

There have been too many admissions in an uncontrollable way.

At same more F/O upgrading for Captains.

In summer A320NEO LR operation, to cross atlantic will start. OPO-EWR will the first route.
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Old 8th Mar 2019, 12:20
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Any idea to when they will re start the process?

Was one of the ones who got the email.

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Old 14th Mar 2019, 18:04
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Apparently after the summer
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Old 15th Mar 2019, 00:28
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Originally Posted by IFLYyouBREATH
Apparently after the summer
Where'd you get this info?
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Old 16th Mar 2019, 08:51
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Originally Posted by IFLYyouBREATH
Apparently after the summer
Apparently not before Summer would be a better way to put it.
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Old 16th Mar 2019, 17:25
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Originally Posted by C212-100


Apparently not before Summer would be a better way to put it.
So basically no more recruitment this year? Where'd you get this info?
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