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Old 13th Jun 2016, 20:54
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In the Spanish press, from the Spanish newspaper Cinco Dias.
Vueling y sus pilotos inician el verano al borde del conflicto | Empresas | Cinco Días

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¨The Vueling pilots entrench again before a possible confrontation with management. So much so that the union Sepla held on Thursday a meeting at the workplace of Barcelona in which, as a confidence motion,the union asked commanders and seconds if they are willing to support the union section in future protest actions. Among the measures, the dreaded strike. And the sense of the vote was practically unanimous in favor.
This working group made up of 900 employees complain again so he understands a repeated breach of the collective agreement, especially as it touches bases abroad. Most Spanish budget airline, part of the holding IAG with Iberia, British Airways and Aer Lingus, has aircraft overnights in Rome, Palermo and Catania in Italy, and the Orly and Charles de Gaulle Paris. At these airports is the job of 110 pilots and co-pilots, plus online operations met in Florence and Amsterdam.
After sealing in the summer of 2015 agreement, in which expatriates it applied the Spanish Vueling agreement when this did not conflict with local labor laws, Sepla again have strong disagreements with the company. Among their complaints include the "non-inclusion of own agreement in employment contracts, contrary to the agreement, or that the ladder or the voluntariness of professionals choosing pilots occupying foreign bases is not respected" , as discussed at the meeting.
Sepla has signed an agreement with the Italian ANPAC to cover pilots in Italy
Stalls outside Spain, explained from the template, they should be covered by volunteers, and the order of preference for accessing these places should prevail antiquity. If there are no staff willing, which is usual, forced starting are chosen by staff with less seniority. However, the union speaks of "a whimsical selection".
"We've heard the union's proposals and we take into account; the new Vueling steering committee it has as a priority, "stated from the top of the company, which labels this internal affair of" confidential ".
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A lack of power to influence decisions that affect operations outside Spain, the union section of Sepla in Vueling has sealed an agreement with the Italian pilots' union ANPAC. This movement creates an umbrella of protection for almost 80 FOs and now have their job in Italy. They are offered the dual affiliation without having to pay an additional fee.
Apart from the issues related to the convention, it has also motivated strong indignation among employees the slogan - "prohibition" says Sepla- address for pilots to avoid talking to journalists or to comment on the company on social networks. The union has publicly criticized these guidelines stating that go against freedom of association and expression. "We are in contact with the central union to answer the necessary questions on this issue," says the address.
With this groundswell, the Sepla has asked a committee meeting to interpret the Convention that the company must celebrate this June in response to the 30 days you have to call the meeting. From the Sepla you are stringing rope knowing that the low cost is at the peak of exercise time.
According to sources, in that assembly of pilots he assumed that there is room for negotiation. In fact, the 100 days granted Sepla room for the new CEO, Javier Sánchez Prieto, from Iberia, took office, knew the company inside and make decisions. A grace period in which that confidence will still remain three weeks, but the executive begins to feel the union pressure.¨
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They terminated arbitrarily 2 SEPLA company council members last year, they won their unfair dismissal case, but, this company is a "Willie Walsh wet dream" with terms & conditions to weep for.

Their policy of opening FCO base with poorer conditions has inspired Norwegian air ****tle to try the same trick, the low-cost carriers are always trying to lower the bar, don't actually know which one disgusts me the most. . . . .
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Take it to em' boys!
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Take it to em' boys!
You have no idea idea of what you are talking about, do you dude? How is your (ever-lasting) job hunt going? Let me guess...

They terminated arbitrarily 2 SEPLA company council members last year, they won their unfair dismissal case, but, this company is a "Willie Walsh wet dream" with terms & conditions to weep for.
Is there any material on this "event"? I am really interested in knowing more about it.
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I only heard about it because SEPLA are pursuing a case on my behalf & one of their solicitors mentioned it to me.

I guess it appeared (or the plaintiffs were "bought off" ? ) in the Spanish press, it happened around the time Vueling was relocating guys to Roma without any discussions on T's & C's & was revenge for the CC members objecting to same.
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Los pilotos de Vueling denuncian presiones para trasladarse a Italia | Noticias de Aerolíneas, rss2 | Revista de turismo Preferente.com


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Vueling pilots reported pressure to move to Italy

Related Topics: Italy, Drivers, pressures, Sepla, Union, Vueling

Updated June 8, 2015 || C. H.
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Section Sindical Sepla in Vueling complaint that the company has pressured the pilots to move to bases in Italy with working conditions that do not respect the provisions of the collective agreement. The union has opposed these plans and therefore says two of its representatives have been fired and a third has opened disciplinary proceedings.

"There is a brutal persecution of the group and to the union section," say from Sepla to preferente.com and warn of "bad work environment, fear, anxiety and tension" on the template.

The union says that the installation of bases in Italy has to agree with the group, something that the airline has not, and adopt the working conditions of pilots to the agreement. According to reports from Sepla, Vueling forces pilots to "terminate their employment with the company and to enter Italy with another company, which lose their seniority." In addition, the airline has chosen to create an independent ladder in the transalpine country "which generates overtaking".

"We do not endorse this project, either legally or unionize. It generates a grievance peer and involves the relocation of production. There are principles q can not skip, "explained from the Sepla. The airline's response has been, say, take two union delegates and expedientar with two months without pay to a third party.

Vueling disciplinary measures justified by a lack of custody in the model must pass the exam for promotion to co-pilots and commanders argued, according Sepla, their diffusion has jeopardized the safety of the company. The pilots' union denies the accusation and says it requested a copy of the document to verify that the test was too demanding, but says that was three months ago. Therefore, for the union it is clear that layoffs are a response to his refusal to transfer pilots to Italy.

Since the airline that runs Álex Cruz preferente.com deny that the dismissal of two members of Sepla and punishment to a third are related to the opening of the base in Rome and blamed the "failure of internal processes" by these three drivers, insisting that disciplinary measures "respond only to individual behavior of concrete and not of the local union people." Vueling also ensures that is willing to "reach agreements with Sepla".
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We all know Vueling (and its management) is a bottom dweller and certainly not contributing to an improvement in pilot wages. That's my point - no Vueling pilot should accept low terms and labor bullying considering its growth which requires more pilots.
Can't believe that I hear that from someone who is working for "the big Irish LCC"
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Vueling Pilots and Flight Attendants unite in company council

Ryanair has improved their conditions for Spanish pilots in Spain significatantly
with pilots from Vueling going to Ryanair adapting to the recent pilot shortage.
When is Vueling management going to wake up as Ryanair has?

Also, How often do you hear of pilots and flight attendants uniting in the same Company Council? From the Preferente. Draw your own conclusions.

Sepla y Stavla sellan un pacto para presionar a la dirección de Vueling | Noticias de Aerolíneas, rss3 | Revista de turismo Preferente.com


¨Sepla and Stavla have agreed to attend a joint bid for election to the council held this Thursday and affecting all airports except to Madrid, Seville and Malaga.

With this historic decision, as recorded by Cinco Dias, pilots and Flight Attendants s aspire to corner the third union representation, Comisiones Obreras, and to pressure the management of the airline to resume negotiations on the second agreement FAs in case your list is the most votes.

Vueling relations with its staff, especially pilots, they are not at their best. The pilots reported that follow breaches of agreement with respect to bases outside Spain. Furthermore, the last statement of the company not to talk to the media has stirred up even more to the collective (The Sepla said that Vueling does not want its pilots talk to the press).

FAs, meanwhile, complain that they are suffering daily changes in their working hours by staff shortages which leads to "delays and cancellations affecting thousands of passengers each day" (Stavla denounces the "inner chaos" in Vueling for lack of staff).¨
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" Also, How often do you hear of pilots and flight attendants uniting in the same Company Council? From the Preferente. Draw your own conclusions. "


SEPLA are engaged in setting up the same structure in the Spanish bases of Norwegian, and a very sound idea it is too. Strength in numbers, & many common concerns shared both forward & aft of the flight deck door.
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