Terms and Endearment The forum the bean counters hoped would never happen. Your news on pay, rostering, allowances, extras and negotiations where you work - scheduled, charter or contract.

WOW Airlines

Old 28th Dec 2016, 04:58
  #61 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Interesting Place
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yes the new agency is : Direct2work/MountainHigh

wish they were using the usual renowned agencies
Tiyara is offline  
Old 3rd Jan 2017, 16:06
  #62 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: FL510
Posts: 910
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Conditions with MountainHigh are the same as the last ones offered by Confair; 8000 € for skippers, 5500 € for FO, subject to taxes.
Still trying to find out more about the bases in Europe, they said that would come. Current advertisements still for 20/10 in KEF.
safelife is offline  
Old 4th Jan 2017, 20:20
  #63 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: away from home
Posts: 887
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Word is Chief Pilot is gone (or left the position evidently).
oceancrosser is online now  
Old 5th Jan 2017, 10:22
  #64 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Noyb
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Is the rumor about the chief pilot correct?
healthy normal pew is offline  
Old 6th Jan 2017, 10:19
  #65 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Noyb
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
thanks a ton for the info nordicfly!!
healthy normal pew is offline  
Old 13th Jan 2017, 02:04
  #66 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
--- Tuesday, 10 Jan 2017

WOW Air Announces $69.99 Daily Flights From The US West Coast To Europe, from Jan. 15.


"Other airlines have been talking about offering these fares," ----- "But Iceland's WOW air is actually doing it."


A trans-Atlantic fare war could be brewing as airlines that already offer some of the cheapest tickets between North America and Europe get set to do battle.

WOW Air's California routes are serviced by three new Airbus A330 aircrafts, the first wide-body jets in the WOW air fleet. The airline operates the youngest fleet in Iceland with the lowest emission.

Icelandic discount carrier WOW rolled out $69.99 one-way fares on Tuesday - Jan 10 for its flights from Los Angeles and San Francisco to four destinations in Europe.

The fares—good for flights from Jan. 15 through April 5—are now being sold on connecting itineraries

to Stockholm; Copenhagen; Bristol, England; and Edinburgh, Scotland.

WOW billed the fares as "its lowest airline prices yet" for customers flying between California and Europe.

But it's the $69.99 fares from California that are most likely to grab headlines Tuesday. CEO Skúli Mogensen told Today in the Sky he aimed to make the rock-bottom prices a regular offering.

"I don't want to introduce this as a sale," CEO Mogensen said. "It's really setting the stage for what is coming."

What is coming is a potentially bruising turf battle with Norwegian Air, another fast-growing "ultra low-cost carrier" that's also rapidly expanding on routes between the USA and Europe.

It's likely no coincidence that WOW's just-announced $69 fares came after Norwegian Air officials spent much of the holiday season on a European media blitz promising $69 fares between Europe and the United States " sometime in 2017 ".

"Other airlines have been talking about offering these fares," WOW Air said in a press release, adding: "But Iceland's WOW air is actually doing it."

Mogensen was slightly more measured when asked directly if WOW's $69 fares were in response to the chatter from Norwegian.

"What I would simply say is that I am thrilled to be introducing these fares on the trans-Atlantic market," Mogensen said. "I think there's going to be fierce competition on all routes."

The company will add two new U.S. destinations later this year, adding service to Miami in April and to Pittsburgh in June.

WOW began flying in 2012 and now flies to more than 30 destinations, including seven in the United States and two in Canada. WOW is already flying from its hub near Reykjavík to Baltimore/Washington, Boston, Los Angeles, Newark Liberty and San Francisco.
marvelman is offline  
Old 16th Jan 2017, 21:14
  #67 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: away from home
Posts: 887
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
$69 (advertised) fare US to EUR. Desperation in low-season?
oceancrosser is online now  
Old 17th Jan 2017, 05:49
  #68 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: France
Posts: 527
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
.... but that's only the beginning .... now add on baggage (even handbaggage), seats and inflight refreshments for starters.
Alsacienne is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2017, 13:46
  #69 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,482
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This is a good article about what it is like to fly as a passenger from LA to London via KEF on WOW at a very low airfare. It is good to hear they try to be upfront about the add-on fees to manage expectations:

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-its-like-to-fly-on-budget-airline-wow-air-2017-1/#according-to-dozer-not-all-wow-seats-are-created-equal-7
Iver is offline  
Old 4th Feb 2017, 18:45
  #70 (permalink)  
doo
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 286
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question regarding the 330 QCC.
Are you bonded, or not, if not is it by Bank Draft, or if from salary how much is the total, how long and how much is deducted per month?
Thanks
doo is offline  
Old 4th Feb 2017, 20:28
  #71 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: South coast
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Wow pay for the CCQ but unless you are Icelandic, on a local contract.. On the 320 you will stay!

Last edited by SHUNT; 4th Feb 2017 at 20:37. Reason: punctuation
SHUNT is offline  
Old 5th Feb 2017, 07:36
  #72 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Mordor
Posts: 335
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hey SHUNT. How about A330-rated/experienced expats? Will they fly the 330, or is it for Icelandics only?
Sidestick_n_Rudder is offline  
Old 8th Apr 2017, 10:24
  #73 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: FL510
Posts: 910
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
WOW Air is recruiting themselves now it seems:

https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/2262.html

It appears the recruitment via obscure agencies didn't go to well.
Hopefully the original conditions are back on offer...
safelife is offline  
Old 25th Apr 2017, 13:11
  #74 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Iceland
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
same as last year, hostel instead of apartment, pay cuts, foreigner treated like 2nd class, many locals with no clue of flying, poor training, no sops, no knowledge...it's just to keep you current and as soon as you find something better you go, as many are doing or did.
we have already lost our best guys, it's a pity.
potential is huge. when management is coming all are lying to show happiness, is really just a parking slot to wait for better opportunities, nothing else. so sad.
nordicfly is offline  
Old 30th Apr 2017, 11:17
  #75 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Utterly insignificant little blue-green planet, unregarded yellow sun, unfashionable end, western spiral arm, Milky Way
Age: 38
Posts: 276
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Based on the last two posts, why would anyone want to work there, ever? Even if only as a stepping stone, why do people legitimize these useless jobs that only drag the rest of the profession down into the mud?!
semmern is offline  
Old 2nd May 2017, 18:30
  #76 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Iceland
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
now only desperates are going there, or people that aren't aware of the problem. last year it wasn't clear the situation.
flying an airliner is a tremendous responsibility, people give their lives in our hands.
here the priority is ashtagging on Instagram and posting on Facebook. no organisation, no solid sops (no sops at all) no training no safety culture. it's a big flying club, off we go. and font's upset the flight attendants, they get more money than you do as a pilot and they don't want to be stressed by a briefing that only foreigners perform. briefing is not necessary, nobody know any emergency commands and nobody even think that this extreme weather is a safety enemy. hope everything will go well, i doubt, but i hope. please keep distance if you can, or be absolutely honest with yourself, you don't care about others, you just fly single pilot and you will be safe. but if you are going to become incapacitated nobody will rescue you, nor the other souls on board in the middle of the Atlantic, at night, with bad weather.
nordicfly is offline  
Old 15th May 2017, 21:07
  #77 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Switzerland ... oh wait: Swaziland
Posts: 797
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
They will start KEF-TLV 4x weekly from September with 321neo.
That will be a helluva flight, even the great circle distance is 5284 km.
TBSC is offline  
Old 15th May 2017, 21:17
  #78 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Eu
Posts: 950
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I see that CAE are now handling the contracts. They claim 330 CCQ within a year. Can anyone up in KEF Pm me with a some ideas on what it really like.. rosters, how many DO in the working block, roster stability, accom etc. Thanks.
Thad Jarvis is offline  
Old 17th May 2017, 08:39
  #79 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Iceland
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
as i wrote in previous post, accommodation hostel, roster stability good, working block normally 20 (18 plus 2 travel days), money depends on your experience but gross as cpt between 8 and 12, so expect 6 to 8 net. ccq only locals or local contract. just very few FO did it with ext contract. CPT nobody, even high experienced trainers stuck on the 320. the huge problem is training (absent) and the culture (too easy going).
if you don't care, it's a good adventure.
nordicfly is offline  
Old 24th May 2017, 16:01
  #80 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Earth
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
CA and FO Salary

Does anybody know the current CA and FO salaries as of today. Also what can a CA and FO expect in per diems every month on top of their salary?
Luggage is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.