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Old 11th Apr 2016, 09:01
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Easyjet Non Type Rated FO

Good morning all.

I was wondering if anyone had any inside knowledge on when Easyjet would be looking to hire non Type Rated FO's, preferably in the London area.

I have been a captain in corporate aviation for some time, but now I would very much like to transition into the airline world (preferably Easyjet). So any information on the best way of doing this would be much appreciated.
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Old 11th Apr 2016, 09:53
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No inside knowledge but historically has been extremely infrequent - last round of NTR FO in UK was almost 3 years ago and about 9 years ago was the previous window. BA and EI have opened up more frequently for NTR in the interim.
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Jet2 has NTR FO positions for this year. Not sure how often they do it, but at EasyJet it's fairly rare, particularly for FOs.
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Just a factual reminder: in 2013 job offers that were given to 40 (including me) of in total 120 successful NTR experienced FOs were retracted 6 months later.
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I think the answer lies in - why do they need to bother?

They have an endless supply of cheap cadets that can be moulded into the SOP culture from scratch. A proven, stable product.

Attrition will have spiked a bit due to BA, but probably well within manageable limits.

Can't see it changing either. If you goal is easy, maybe a stint at Wizz is in order to get your rating and 500hrs.
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Has EasyJet ever actually recruited a direct entry FO on to a UK employed contract at a level suitable to their experience? Not a contractor through Parc/CTC or a second officer (what ever that is)?

Just wondering because there is a lot of talk about joining EJ but unless you are a Cadet or living at home with mummy and daddy I can't see how it's even an option.
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NTR Direct Entry FO requirements

"Has EasyJet ever actually recruited a direct entry FO on to a UK employed contract at a level suitable to their experience? Not a contractor through Parc/CTC or a second officer (what ever that is)?"

YES - but only up until 2008. It was SSTR where A320 was paid back over 5 years service. Sadly several capable individuals were messed about on last few courses and School pushed its own cadet scheme. Next there was a period of P2F (some did 100 hrs before being let go), and then Flexi Crew.

Now NTR has to be experienced glass cockpit, over 20 tonnes or ZERO as a cadet. So most Biz jet or military pilots won't be able to apply unlike pre 2008.

Contrast this to PSA (USA regional jet operator) who will hire 1000 pilots over next 24 mths:

"With PSA’s current growth, new Pilot hires can expect:

$15,000 sign-on bonus. A $10,000 bonus, with an additional $5,000 available to pilots with 1,000 or more hours of Part 121, Part 135 or any combination of the two.
Reduced reserve time.
Domicile assignments awarded during training or shortly after (Dayton, Cincinnati, Charlotte, and Knoxville).
Well-defined career path to American Airlines.
Historically low time to upgrade (2015 average: 10.5 months).
Most flexible scheduling capabilities in the regional business.
Paid ATP-CTP course. PSA will pay for the ATP-CTP course for qualified candidates needing to complete the ATP written exam prior to new hire training. Flight and hotel accommodations will be provided.
Comprehensive benefits including medical, dental, and 401(k).
All Pilots are eligible for travel privileges on American Airlines.
American Airlines Group (AAG) profit-sharing.


MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS

Have necessary hours and qualifications under the ATP requirements or the restricted ATP requirements
25 Hours Multi-Engine required with actual aircraft, not Sim time. (FAR 61.159)
FCC Restricted Radio Operator’s Permit
First Class Medical
Valid Passport

May apply if within 3 months of meeting the minimum qualifications."
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Old 17th Apr 2016, 09:19
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I was wondering if anyone had any inside knowledge on when Easyjet would be looking to hire non Type Rated FO's, preferably in the London area.
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They are, right now, for Portugal (which will be on a permanent contract).

With the numbers required for the next year, I imagine this will spread to other bases.
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Old 17th Apr 2016, 10:32
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The only reason they accept NTR in Portugal is because the contract is so bad nobody wants to work there. Permanent cabin crew in the UK earn more than FO in Portugal. I was told this by a Porto FO!!!
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Thanks for all of the replies! Currently I am on a jet that's over 30 tons, fly by wire and glass cockpit so hopefully should Easyjet recruit in the future I'll stand a chance.
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The only reason they accept NTR in Portugal is because the contract is so bad nobody wants to work there. Permanent cabin crew in the UK earn more than FO in Portugal. I was told this by a Porto FO!!!
Don't believe everything you hear.
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Actually they will! :-))

easyJet opens recruitment for 450 pilot positions - Pilot Career News
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Old 19th Apr 2016, 11:25
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What's the chances of NTR Direct entry FOs for UK bases? The website has only NTR for Portugal. Or is this to be updated?
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I imagine it would be quite small.
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Old 19th Apr 2016, 21:27
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I think chances are good...
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Old 19th Apr 2016, 22:25
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Anybody on the inside has an idea on how long this recruitment is going to last?

I will not be able to apply before 3/4 months, type rated.
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The numbers (which probably include internal recruitment also) will be for the next season.
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Is an application to the NTR Portugal job likely to come with a base freeze?

Sorry if this is repetitive?
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Old 21st Apr 2016, 12:08
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Is FO recruitment For UK bases only for Cadets?
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