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Old 21st May 2019, 19:41
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TBH expect to work a very hard roster. Not massively long days but I didn’t get a full weekend off last year from March - Oct. The roster is of course random and you’ll be VERY lucky to get more than 3 days off in a row. In some cases expect 1 day off in 9. It is a nice place to work with nice people but that only goes so far.
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Old 21st May 2019, 19:44
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Originally Posted by Reversethrustset
Yep, it is what it is. The problem with pilots is they'll whinge their tits off at the first given opportunity. If you join you're joining a multi base, regional airline. Things WILL go wrong, you WILL be disrupted and you WILL work hard. You can have a life if you go in with your eyes open and remember you should know what you're signing up for, if you don't you haven't done your research.
And it only took me 45 mins to do just that!
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Old 21st May 2019, 20:41
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Terrible, terrible work life balance. I knew plenty of 20-30 something year old captains opting for part time contracts to try and achieve more of a balance.
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Old 21st May 2019, 20:49
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other possibilities

I would recommend maybe RYR? 5000 euros and you're in with a normal contract. Not those weird contractor contracts. But... Flybe... specially now that everyone's hiring... not really.
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Old 22nd May 2019, 07:20
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I found it fine and I was there a long time and flew both fleets in both seats in a fair few bases. You're working for an airline, not a 9-5 office job. Show me a full time job as flight crew that makes pilots happy, they are few and far between.
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Old 22nd May 2019, 17:35
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Reversethrustset, I bet if they cut you in half it would say Flybe all the way through ����. While what you say carries a lot of truth, I must admit the recent mass exodus of flight crew has not helped. I only hope they can turn things around as the last thing I want is to move away from home, and work for a low cost ��������
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Old 22nd May 2019, 21:22
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Thanks for the responses. What are the chances of being based in SOU or EXT as a CPT? Are part-time contracts easy to come by? I haven't heard great things about the Flybe rostering, but to be quite honest, I haven't come across a single airline where the crew doesn't complain about it. It's what each individual makes of it, but if 1 day off in 9 is true, that is brutal.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 02:26
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Originally Posted by WMB
Reversethrustset, I bet if they cut you in half it would say Flybe all the way through


No not really, just an understanding of what industry I'm part of, it was my choice to join them and I did so knowing what I was getting into, there's no point moaning about it afterwards. How many Ryanair pilots sign on the dotted line then whinge how bad they are treated? Well yeah, but you signed up for it armed with the knowledge but if you didn't have the prior knowledge then you haven't done your research. Don't get me wrong, being continually disrupted or continuously night stopping can wear you down but the sooner people accept that there will be the odd disruption and the odd night stop the happier you'll be, it's the same as standby duties, the amount of crew that whinge they've been called off standby is mind blowing, the sooner you train your brain that if you manage to survive the day without being called and you get to stay at home is actually a bonus the happier you'll be. Flybe isn't perfect, but accept it for what it is, it's a multi base, regional airline, things will go wrong, you will night stop, you will work hard, it's the nature of the beast, that of course doesn't mean you shouldn't fight for change. In the long run, it'll do your blood pressure the world of good.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 02:48
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Originally Posted by flyboy146
I haven't come across a single airline where the crew doesn't complain about it. It's what each individual makes of it, but if 1 day off in 9 is true, that is brutal.
I have never, ever been rostered 1 day off in 9, that would assume a 4 on, 1 off, 4 on or something reasonably similar. I've had the odd 4/1/3 but that was quite rare, however, they are beyond desperate for crew so if there is the odd 4/1/4 then that is brutal but the good thing is they have a pretty robust scheduling agreement so you'll still get your required days off in a calendar month, you can also report a fatigue roster once issued. The rostering and crewing department are in a fight, you couldn't pay me enough to do their job, they get a bad press from the crew but look at it from their perspective, once next month's jigsaw has been built there are still so many missing pieces. I've not long left Flybe, trust me it isn't all bad and I hear exactly the same gripes at my new company as I did at Flybe. As the ol' saying goes, most airlines are the same, it's just the ****'s a different colour. (Disclaimer alert, I don't mean my new company is ****, I love it)
The only thing I will say is that the company and management forced me to leave a job I enjoyed, I have zero respect for the senior management, they have screwed the workforce over and forced many great people to leave. The job was great, the people were greater, but a litany of miss management has put it where it is today. Go in with your eyes open, embrace all that is good, but you are and always will be an expendable asset.
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