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Turkish Airlines THY working conditions - worse than announced?

Old 21st May 2015, 11:16
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I don't work for Turkish and I don't have any particular love for them but it does seem somewhat strange that Turkish should adjust their salaries based on exchange rates with other countries! As far as I have read they do increase their salaries based on inflation in turkey( I stand to be corrected). I work for a major airline in Europe and we have guys living all over the globe including the US and Canada. I would find it very strange if those guys would get a salary adjustment if the exchange rate between the US or Canada and the euro changes!! This should be left to demand and supply, if they can't get guys based on the exchange rate they should increase it! Just my two cents.
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 14:54
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Hi everyone. I am considering a DEC 777 job. Could anyone please tell me what the approx amount of tax (%) is deucted from pay for an expat?
Do you receive a pay statement that clearly shows gross and net pay.?
I am trying to work out if there would be a UK tax liability on top of the Turkish tax.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 15:19
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You pay approx 5%, and its clearly marked every payslip.

The UK tax will depend on your circumstances, but with the current laws you will have to pay UK tax if you commute/have a family residing in the UK.
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 16:10
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hi 20 years

thanks for the reply. So I guess the UK tax man will want up to another 30- 35%.
Doesn't leave much!!
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 17:18
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That's correct. I believe they will allow the 5% you've already paid, but it will still take a chunk of your money and make this gig not worthwhile (IMO).

Good luck
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 19:30
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Your UK residence status affects whether you need to pay tax in the UK on your foreign income.

Non-residents only pay tax on their UK income - they don’t pay UK tax on their foreign income.

Residents normally pay UK tax on all their income, whether it’s from the UK or abroad. But there are special rules for UK residents whose permanent home (‘domicile’) is abroad.
Your tax liability will depend on your resident status.

It's very simple and talk to the revenue guys they are very helpful as they hate paperwork as much as we do:

https://www.gov.uk/tax-foreign-income/residence

Work out your residence status
Whether you’re UK resident usually depends on how many days you spend in the UK in the tax year (6 April to 5 April the following year).

You’re automatically resident if either:

you spent 183 or more days in the UK in the tax year
your only home was in the UK - you must have owned, rented or lived in it for at least 91 days in total - and you spent at least 30 days there in the tax year
You’re automatically non-resident if either:

you spent less than 16 days in the UK (or 46 days if you haven’t been classed as UK resident for the 3 previous tax years)
you work abroad full-time (averaging at least 35 hours a week) and spent less than 91 days in the UK, of which less than 31 days were spent working
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Old 8th Jun 2015, 07:28
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THY use and abuse

The post election scenario looks quite grim. A coalition government between the Islamist and the fascist nationalist ( AKP/MHP) looks very probable and will seal the fate of expatriate pilots in Turkey. The abuses are nevertheless already ongoing. I heard from friends of sudden changes of base operating airport, unexplained and inexplicable letter of warning and termination, ongoing meddling with seniority to the detriment of expat pilot and to prevent their upgrade or move to wide body, other episodes just confirm that THY is no place for expatriate. And from now most probably less than ever
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Old 8th Jun 2015, 07:39
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Only for desperados this gig...

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Old 9th Jun 2015, 09:00
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There is sure space for improvement and it is slowly happening. I would not be so radical considering the background of THY I think they are doing what they can. Mostly I would think of a way to improve communication ..or lack of it thereof.
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Old 9th Jun 2015, 09:23
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I'm happy working for THY.

BUT

1 EUR = 3,11 TL at the moment

I understand that THY is not responsible for this, but I hope they will see that they are losing guys because of it.
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Old 9th Jun 2015, 09:34
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Hocam, once you're married to a turkish woman you will never be allowed to leave Turkey again, hence no need for the €
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Old 9th Jun 2015, 15:09
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Well, a lot of us have a family in their home countries.
The ones that get stuck in the 'honey trap' will have to deal with the 10%+ inflation.

Again, I am happy in THY. But I am worried about our salaries.
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Old 10th Jun 2015, 09:02
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TypeIV

Type you are my hero, you are totally right, ahhhahah Hocam sey, no need for Euro your turkish wife will burn your money in Turkey, showing off with family and friends and you will be squeezed like a lemon.
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Old 16th Jun 2015, 15:19
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£1 = 4.25 THY today. When will the lira plateau?
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Old 17th Jun 2015, 17:12
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Pegasus is recruiting and advertise 3 weeks ON /1 week OFF
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Old 20th Jun 2015, 14:18
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Exclamation Expecting fair attitude when resigning in THY?

Thank you folks for all replies, no matter emotional or not.
Some facts might not be touching everybody, but these more than hundreds posts telling me, something is going on in THY, and it does not look too good.

Before I make a final decision, since I already postpounded my interview dates, would somebody in close connection to leaving pilots be able to confirm, whether THY is playing fair or unfair, when resign from the company?

Out of my 2 ex-colleagues, the last one resigning recently was blocked in intranet system and could not use ID traveling or other benefits, which seams to be a sanctional response by management ....
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Old 20th Jun 2015, 17:25
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It seems very strange to think about leaving conditions before you apply with ANY job, and frankly If you are this unsettled or undecided I would advise you stay away, the Turkish culture may not be for you. Something going on? yes true, rapid expansion and preparation for EASA FTLs is making a headache for all. Yes some FOs in training have done hardly any hours since November time and had to put up with just being paid to sit around in the sun and drink beer. Still a general training capacity shortage, although the foreign pilot documentation is much simpler now. If staff leave according to the procedures there are no problems, this happens in any carrier. On the other hand if staff leave and try to book ID tickets outside of the period they are entitled to, then they are blocked, why? well simply because they are no longer entitled to "staff travel".. The system is automatic by ID number and its not personal, you leave, you loose the rights..that's it. If you resign with 60 days notice and leave after 1 day, expect the same, and dodgy medical reports don't count either..staff tickets validity period is only while employed.Many new guys on A330 fleet

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Old 20th Jun 2015, 18:27
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Thought this was a forum for pilots.
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Old 20th Jun 2015, 19:31
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Actually, so did we!
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