Airlines that have its pilots pay to fly
Because a) you don't have to if you can get a bank guarantee and b) you get the money back including interest (an addmitedly measly sum but so is all interest).
It's not ideal. For some it's a stepping stone, for some it's a way home and for others it's a way out of where they are now.
Personally unless necessity dictates otherwise I wouldn't go there. But I know several people who have and none of them have regretted it.
Although the real argument I wanted to make is if you're going to use figures to bolster your argument at least make sure they're accurate.
It's not ideal. For some it's a stepping stone, for some it's a way home and for others it's a way out of where they are now.
Personally unless necessity dictates otherwise I wouldn't go there. But I know several people who have and none of them have regretted it.
Although the real argument I wanted to make is if you're going to use figures to bolster your argument at least make sure they're accurate.
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Any payment after becoming qualified to work (ie CPL MEIR) should be considered as pay to fly.
You have done your part in getting qualified, just like a law student, a medical student or an engineering student. Though your bills were most likely much higher
You have done your part in getting qualified, just like a law student, a medical student or an engineering student. Though your bills were most likely much higher
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What happens with PSV & HGV non-rated cadets? They have a 'driving licence' but not the type. How's it for them? I'm not advocating paying up front; bonding, with full salary, seems reasonable. It's not easy to compare with other industries, e.g. train drivers, ships' captains etc. I suspect not many of us have knowledge of those industries.
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Still a lot of airlines, i.e. the flag carriers do pay for everything but the airline industry has changed so much since those days for e.g. it has become a lot affordable to travel, increase in airline numbers esp. lo-co, pilots, traffic, so on and so forth.
Perhaps, that has enabled the airlines to 'do whatever they like' i.e. charging for TR, line-training taking advantage of the number of unemployed low-houred pilots out there. They (airlines) have a greater bargaining power. #porters-5-forces
Sadly, this has become a norm and in my humble opinion is considered a shadow industry where revenue is generated through an exploitation. (Hope this doesn't sound very harsh).
Fair or not fair in comparing other industries isn't really relevant here because wether paying for TR or interview assessment is considered paying...? I.e. Does a HR personnel have to pay to get an interview at an airline?
Perhaps, that has enabled the airlines to 'do whatever they like' i.e. charging for TR, line-training taking advantage of the number of unemployed low-houred pilots out there. They (airlines) have a greater bargaining power. #porters-5-forces
Sadly, this has become a norm and in my humble opinion is considered a shadow industry where revenue is generated through an exploitation. (Hope this doesn't sound very harsh).
Fair or not fair in comparing other industries isn't really relevant here because wether paying for TR or interview assessment is considered paying...? I.e. Does a HR personnel have to pay to get an interview at an airline?
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Does a HR personnel have to pay to get an interview at an airline?
Very good point. Who else other than pilots have to pay to apply for a job? You pay and still might not be interviewed. How is it with cabin crew & engineers? What about ground/office staff, even managers?
Very good point. Who else other than pilots have to pay to apply for a job? You pay and still might not be interviewed. How is it with cabin crew & engineers? What about ground/office staff, even managers?
This has been going on for years.. recall a L-410 FO position at MAN(?) (on a 'N' reg) in the early to mid 90's you pay you fly.... this was the beginning....
EagleJet have been offering the 737 since the late 90's... and recently offered wide-body Captain positions for 50K+
It's one thing RHS P2F bad as it is.... but Widebody Captain? wtf.
Cabin crew scams are ten a penny as well. Engineers... no... too much of a shortage (and not as glamorous).
EagleJet have been offering the 737 since the late 90's... and recently offered wide-body Captain positions for 50K+
It's one thing RHS P2F bad as it is.... but Widebody Captain? wtf.
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How is it with cabin crew & engineers?
How is it with cabin crew & engineers?
