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That's why Wizz culture went in really bad direction. They live only because of good PR and shareholders who are willing to put money inside airline. Unfortunately its just matter of time when incident /accident will happen, for time being they are hiding them really well. I heard crazy stories about seconds from doing runway excursion, landing off the runway and doing go around at 10ft as aircraft went of the rwy... All things were reported to base captains in order to give extra training for bad performing FOs, at the end everything was hidden below carpet.
Not to mention what collegues from Romania and Macedonia experienced from local base captains who were threating with legal actions against collegues in the case they report them. I feel sorry for friends who are working for them now for less money and much more fear and dishonesty and still can't complain as they will end like all redundant collegues.
Not to mention what collegues from Romania and Macedonia experienced from local base captains who were threating with legal actions against collegues in the case they report them. I feel sorry for friends who are working for them now for less money and much more fear and dishonesty and still can't complain as they will end like all redundant collegues.
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The intention, as I see it, is having a legal defence in case someone of those made redundant decides to object in court the decision to fire him and potentially hire someone else in his place. That way, the company is totally safe, should anyone decide to do it. You weren't fired arbitrarily; you were assessed and found inadequate for the position. As insulting as it is, especially for those who have actually been trained by very same company from day one of their careers, it's a rock-solid argument for court, should anyone try to sue them over unfair dismissal.
The intention, as I see it, is having a legal defence in case someone of those made redundant decides to object in court the decision to fire him and potentially hire someone else in his place. That way, the company is totally safe, should anyone decide to do it. You weren't fired arbitrarily; you were assessed and found inadequate for the position. As insulting as it is, especially for those who have actually been trained by very same company from day one of their careers, it's a rock-solid argument for court, should anyone try to sue them over unfair dismissal.
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Guys, it doesn’t matter if the training manager and the chief pilots are EX Emirates. Believe me, it is hard for me to believe that someone is doing this in order to bring some “friends” from EK.
at the end we are out and I must admit that the way which they did it, it was cruel.
They can do whetever they want now, bring ex EK friends and send them in a rocket to the moon, I don’t care honestly. Is not my business.
what I have seen in this company, lack of transparency and how has changed in the last 2 years is enough for me to know that is not my place and I need to find the correct place.
I think that to be a Captain on A321 doing 4 sectors (not always), lot of cold weather ops, 30 minutes turnarounds, inexperienced FOs (not bad pilots just inexperienced), challenging airports etc etc etc is not for everyone. With all the respect of my colleagues ex EK... I just say, be prepare! And I wish all this new candidates (external) lot of success in Wizzair.
for the rest of ex Wizz colleagues, all of you guys are a very proffesional people, you demonstrated that can carry on a very very tricky and demanding operation low cost during years and years in a safety way. It is not your fault. We already know what happened here.
Guys, we will have our place in the industry, we have an amazing experience and the business sooner or later will rump up.
So keep your head up and look forward, this is not the end of the road.
at the end we are out and I must admit that the way which they did it, it was cruel.
They can do whetever they want now, bring ex EK friends and send them in a rocket to the moon, I don’t care honestly. Is not my business.
what I have seen in this company, lack of transparency and how has changed in the last 2 years is enough for me to know that is not my place and I need to find the correct place.
I think that to be a Captain on A321 doing 4 sectors (not always), lot of cold weather ops, 30 minutes turnarounds, inexperienced FOs (not bad pilots just inexperienced), challenging airports etc etc etc is not for everyone. With all the respect of my colleagues ex EK... I just say, be prepare! And I wish all this new candidates (external) lot of success in Wizzair.
for the rest of ex Wizz colleagues, all of you guys are a very proffesional people, you demonstrated that can carry on a very very tricky and demanding operation low cost during years and years in a safety way. It is not your fault. We already know what happened here.
Guys, we will have our place in the industry, we have an amazing experience and the business sooner or later will rump up.
So keep your head up and look forward, this is not the end of the road.
The only industry in the world where you get made redundant from your job and then is “allowed” to reapply for the same job at a lower pay by the same employer that literally has several years of data on your performance in that exact job but chooses to run arbitrary assessments to see if you’re the person they’re looking for to do the same job again. Brilliant..
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The zero acknowledgement given to the fact that you were once an employee of the company is quite shocking. Many airlines have a completely separate assessment process for previous employees returning to work with them - most often, the HR part is skipped altogether, leaving just the sim exercise. But, as I previously mentioned, in this case it seems that the assessments are just a cover story for the actual way in which people were picked up for the shooting list.
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Recruitment is often run by children and occasionally people with extremely big heads. I joined a team of them once and was astonished by the ego mania some displayed. Some would completely make up arbitrary rules and processes that have no basis in reality or fairness. Just to feel powerful. One of them was previously on the panel at Wizzair. ****ty airline with ****ty practices and always has been.
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My observations over a good couple of airlines (with Wizz NOT being one of them) suggest the same. The interview setup depends on what kind of workforce you're aiming for. If you want submissive people who can be easily manipulated and will never question anything they are ordered by the top dog, set up an interview led by someone big-headed and arrogant who will act as if he's invented aviation and hire those who will swallow all their pride and dignity, freak out at the first frown and behave as though their life was dependent on it. If you want friendly and honest people who will all be in this together instead of playing a game of superiors and subordinates - make it as informal as you (appropriately) can, stimulating people to relax and show their true selves.
Back to the topic, has anyone done the new psychological assessment? What's it like?
Back to the topic, has anyone done the new psychological assessment? What's it like?
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Psychological assessment was mandated by EASA very recently (and hence used as part of the reasoning to put the fire-and-rehire lot through the complete assessment process). As there aren't many places recruiting now, those going to Wizz will likely be the first ones to test the waters on a European scale. So, it would be interesting to know the details. Is it done internally, e.g. by an appropriately qualified HR person, or do they outsource it to an external psychological assessment lab?
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They should've asked for an extension. You can get one pretty much on anything these days due to covid19. In any case it's not until i believe November this year, when it becomes mandatory. As far as i know and heard it's done internally in wzz.
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However during the past weeks, we have seen cases where this trust has been breached. Screenshots have been taken and company confidential informations has been leaked. Not only am I morally offended by this but also it's a clear and serious breach of employment contracts and policies. I do expect that these are individual offenders and do not reflect overall on the people that work at this great company. I would like to remind everyone that all informations shared on these company sites are company confidential and a breach of this confidentiality will result in immediate termination of the employment contract and the individual will be prosecuted for leaking internal confidential materials to the full extent of the law. "
This is what was sent around previously to Wizz crew...
On pprune I couldn't find any confidential informations recently so I assume it's just another threat to control any informations from inside. (salary scales for new joiners etc)
It's such a shame what Wizz became recently since crisis started. Laying off massive number of cabin crew and now forcing remaining ones to fly even if they were on flight where passenger was covid 19 infected. New policy says that no quarantine is needed except for those one who had a contact with him/her. This airline really cares about a profit only and nothing more.
This is what was sent around previously to Wizz crew...
On pprune I couldn't find any confidential informations recently so I assume it's just another threat to control any informations from inside. (salary scales for new joiners etc)
It's such a shame what Wizz became recently since crisis started. Laying off massive number of cabin crew and now forcing remaining ones to fly even if they were on flight where passenger was covid 19 infected. New policy says that no quarantine is needed except for those one who had a contact with him/her. This airline really cares about a profit only and nothing more.
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They can't be serious... Everything and absolutely everything these days is happening online, through various sharepoint, workday, etc. apps. Covid19 is only accelerated this. Simply thinking that someone won't take a screenshot and share it with some friends in the industry on various chat apps or email is naive. They can threaten as much as they want but this will never change. The genie is out of bottle since they elected to embrace such platforms for cost saving, mind you.
On the deadhead subject i find it ridiculous that while passengers are subject to various restrictions upon travel and crew who are sitting right next to or in between them, or worse standing in the line for security and boarding are expected to operate the next day (or the same - just have a look how they handle deadhead duty...) with being exempt from such restrictions. Cost saving again by evading rules and regs to ensure minimum crew is sufficient being shuffled around between various bases with no respect to individual health and safety concerns.
On the deadhead subject i find it ridiculous that while passengers are subject to various restrictions upon travel and crew who are sitting right next to or in between them, or worse standing in the line for security and boarding are expected to operate the next day (or the same - just have a look how they handle deadhead duty...) with being exempt from such restrictions. Cost saving again by evading rules and regs to ensure minimum crew is sufficient being shuffled around between various bases with no respect to individual health and safety concerns.
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Technically, anything that is not in a press release or otherwise widely disseminated by company officials may be regarded as privileged or commercially sensitive. The question is, how far can that go as far as persecution is concerned. Are we looking at soon seeing the European analogue of The Great Unmentionable that shares one of the new WZZ bases? There's simply no way to seal off any company from the rest of the world (unless you're Air Koryo). It's a small industry and people will be exchanging info one way or another, there's simply no way to prevent it. Any attempts to stop this from happening result in little other than breakdown of trust.
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Informations have always been around. Such informations like pilots salary should be around as they affect people willing to apply and possibly getting a job afterwards. Also such informations can be found on pilot jobs network page... There is always way to communicate such informations and pilot community using a forum is one of them. On the other hand, airline basing their culture on fear and constant threats should be ashamed of such mentality. Since management change (after kicking locals from high positions who were also the final line of defense from Varadi's wet dreams about bad treatment of pilots and other employees, and replacing them by new management who can't say no), situation became drastically worse.
Informations have always been around. Such informations like pilots salary should be around as they affect people willing to apply and possibly getting a job afterwards. Also such informations can be found on pilot jobs network page... There is always way to communicate such informations and pilot community using a forum is one of them. On the other hand, airline basing their culture on fear and constant threats should be ashamed of such mentality. Since management change (after kicking locals from high positions who were also the final line of defense from Varadi's wet dreams about bad treatment of pilots and other employees, and replacing them by new management who can't say no), situation became drastically worse.
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Most probably they meant this (in Finnish but the leaked parts are in English obviously):
https://suomenkuvalehti.fi/jutut/ulk...216-da1826a2-4
https://suomenkuvalehti.fi/jutut/ulk...216-da1826a2-4
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