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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 08:08
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Thank you for reply! Well some of mentioned bases are also nice, I expected much more limiting options like TIA only for new joiner...
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 09:48
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I think only desperate people and low hours will accept those bases with a base freeze. I went ahead to withdraw my application with the latest developments.
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 10:03
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Skopje shouldn’t be too bad
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 10:22
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Skopje is by far the most polluted city in europe, and not the prettiest city by western europe standard, to put it mildly.
And I won’t say anything about Craiova, Tuzla or Chisinau...
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 10:50
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Skopje is a sh1thole...almost literally. Witnessed a young girl accompanied by her parents defecating in the streets there in full public view. It felt like I was on the set of Borat in Kazakhstan having witnessed almost every single stereotype from that movie there.
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 12:10
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Of those Balkan bases ,skopje is one of the better...it's polluted in the winter mainly...so yes in the winter but not in the other periods more than other cities like Bucharest etc. People ****ting in the streets are most likely called gipsies which you can find in every European city, in some cities they are just not so visible and more sofisticated. Last time I visited the city it had improved a lot with nice statues etc, not like 10 years ago...
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 14:16
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Skopje and Sofia are reasonably nice at this time of the year, but definitely not in the winter. Then, they turn into the two most heavily polluted capitals on the European continent. Heavy use of coal heating with unfiltered exhaust, combined with frequent valley inversions due to the mountainous terrain, result in horrific levels of air pollution. And I'm not sure how this is going to affect the epidemiological situation in the winter as there is already some evidence that fine particulate matter can ease the spread of COVID-19.

As of the other bases in the Balkans... Bucharest is quite reasonable. If you speak Italian or Spanish, you will quickly pick up Romanian. Varna is nice in the summer, but it can get really windy in the winter; also, the airport is not LVO-approved, so be prepared to divert a couple of times every winter when it gets foggy. Chisinau was quite dilapidated and not particularly cheap when I last went there 10 years ago, don't know if it's any different now. Craiova, Tuzla, Tirana, Cluj, Iasi, Bacau - never been there.

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Old 11th Aug 2020, 07:24
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Ex exmployes has to pay for their expenses, flight tickets, hotels and COVID test in order to go Budapest for doing a Psycological Assestment
Most of them FOs in this first round. Starting on 21St and ahead.
today meeting to speak about the “new pilot scheme salaries”... again

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Old 11th Aug 2020, 07:37
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yes, but seems to be there is a black list as well... so maybe not everybody will be recalled
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Old 11th Aug 2020, 07:58
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Well as Wizz cabin crew they are already used to piss poor salaries, so they will also accept piss poor pilot salaries. Double win for Wizz.
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Old 11th Aug 2020, 09:02
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So, no free tickets to BUD for the assessment any longer?
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Old 12th Aug 2020, 02:06
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New payscale is out: seniority bonus effectively halved and caps at 5000hrs. Basic is pre-covid minus 30%. There is a promise that for people who are currently in the company it'll be raised back to pre-covid levels from April 2021, however i have my doubts. Unfortunately this won't apply to new joiners nor the ones who might be taken back after being let go this year.
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Old 12th Aug 2020, 06:42
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So the worst conditions for A320 pilots in the world. Bravo Wizzair! They think the crisis is gonna be for ever...
A FO will be lucky to make 2000 Euros flying like hell.
For the time being China yesterday reopen borders for European foreigners. And I know some exWizz Captains waiting to get the Chinese VISA for going there and do the Assestment with Sichuan Airlines...

Pilots will say yes yes yes to everything but with the other eye will be looking for how market improves in Asia or South America and also in Europe. And as soon as they can they will run away and escape.

The only thing they are getting is to create bad environment and low moral between pilots and company. No motivation at all for most of FO to do upgrades because of their “new pay scheme”. Lack of motivation for poor and inconsistent roster that can let western pilots see their families with regularity. fatigue, hard summer...
but the worst part is to see how their colleagues fired a few months ago, are going to be offered to come back with the worst conditions that ever met Aviation world in the history.
This is the heading that Wizzair has choosen for managing the company and the expansion, of course now in August 2020 everybody will say yes sir but let see in the future what happen and how they will be remembered after the reputation they have gained in a very small pilots worldwide.

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Old 18th Aug 2020, 09:28
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https://www.breakingtravelnews.com/n...wick-airport/?

Don't know what to think of this having EZY closing bases, etc. Definitely fueling the downward spiral of t&c-s...
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 09:48
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Mate, there is nowhere to run to. For a long long time, trust me they’ll be alright. They will
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 10:47
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it doesn’t give that impression... but yes you are right! Could be that they have everything under control.
Time will say mate
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 11:09
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I'm gonna say it. I have friends at Wizz who I'm very happy that still have a job but make no mistake about it, their expansion and spread is a threat to us all. Because they operate in parts of Europe where you really can live like a king on just €3-4000 per month (as an FO), they think they can emulate that elsewhere in Europe too (and probably the whole world). If after the industry recovers they have expanded and become stronger (very likely) they will become the new yardstick for terms and conditions everywhere.
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 12:12
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my friend FO salary flying to the limit will be much lower than 3-4K per month. And Captains new if they have a bond will be around 4000 flying to the limit as well.

the problem here is that Western Europe pilots are not going to accept that style of life without fix roster and living in bases like Chisinau, Skopje, Kiev and so.... because a ryanair is paying with the reduction 6-7k to a Captain giving a base in Western Europe and maintaining their Pattern Roster fix permanent 5/4, not firing anyone etc etc... and do not speak about EZY. Why? Simple, because citizens in Western Europe have rights, have Unions and do not permit them to do whetever they want.
so just imagine take a British Airways pilot or EZY pilot or even Vueling, Volotea, Iberia Express... and tell them to go for living in this Eastern Europe countries because they are going to live like a king... you will see the outcome.
people here has families, mortages, children’s school, pets, wife, parents. They have a life and people to maintain under their back. And YES is completely unsustainable for a family in UK, France, Italy, Germany or Spain to live with such money, rosters etc etc...
right now there will be desperate people that accept whetever they put on the table (specially FO) but this situation is just temporal. To be a pilot or a Captain is a long and hard way. It requires money, lot of money and effort and dedication during years. It has been like that and it will be, in addition Wizzair cannot take Captains from Ghana, USA, Asia... just EASA pilots (except for UAE 🇦&#127466 so the number of candidates is even smaller.
I’m really happy to see that a company has a potential to expand but they simply don’t have the resources and the manpower prepared in advance for such huge expansion.
you need pilots, good pilots, EASA pilots, TRI, LTC and TREs. Simulators enough to train and prepare such expansion. And they simply are not prepared. However and is not the best example Ryanair is dealing much better with the situation, keeping all their pilots ready to fly, buying simulators and waiting to have 40 new 737MAX for next summer ready to fly.
that is my opinion
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 14:09
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They already have a UK AOC with quiet a few G-reg in their fleet.
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 14:26
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Apart from lack of viable alternatives in the near future, one more thing that might make some people fight fiercely for WZZ/WUK is that it seems to be more inclusive to non-rated people. Granted, in RYR the pay is a long way better, the roster is rock-solid, there's a greater choice of bases etc. But you can only apply as a cadet fresh out of flight school, as a 737-rated and experienced FO or as an experienced Captain. Correct me if I am wrong, but there's no route for an experienced A320 FO to join RYR and get rated on the 737 (except for Lauda, which is less than 5% of the RYR group fleet). While in WZZ there is. I've seen plenty of FOs from B737, E190, Q400 and whatnot else apply and do the type rating with WZZ.
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