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The aforementioned charming things happened in many other airlines across Europe, big and small. And I can't see something like that encouraging long-term loyalty, no matter in which of those airlines and certainly not in the ones where seniority is not a thing either. So, the moment the market picks up and alternatives start coming up, a number of places will have staff retention problems. Which, in turn, will raise the salary baseline a lot quicker than in 10-15 years. Right until the next downturn, when the story will repeat itself time and again.
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There isnt any list so as long as you perform in a company oriented way you should be safe. Regarding the hours yes they do factor your hours and with you experience it should only take about 1 year maybe for upgrade, thats how it was before corona, now the upgrades are postponed for a certain amount of time...
About the type rating, Do you need to do whole type rating course with them, or you can renew your expired 320 rating by your own before joining?
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The aforementioned charming things happened in many other airlines across Europe, big and small. And I can't see something like that encouraging long-term loyalty, no matter in which of those airlines and certainly not in the ones where seniority is not a thing either. So, the moment the market picks up and alternatives start coming up, a number of places will have staff retention problems. Which, in turn, will raise the salary baseline a lot quicker than in 10-15 years. Right until the next downturn, when the story will repeat itself time and again.
Difference being that easyJet has a strong union in Germany, and only local contracts complying with the local law, meaning that they cannot just do as they wish, firing with an email and just a few weeks notice, like Wizzair. They obviously use similar tactics, that's true.
Plus easyJet has not announced base openings like candies in the last month, and has no plan to grow by 200+ planes in just a few years, as the pink brigade.
Plus easyJet has not announced base openings like candies in the last month, and has no plan to grow by 200+ planes in just a few years, as the pink brigade.
True, they have a union. Although i wouldn't call ver.di strong in any way, shape or form, especially as they negotiate based on member numbers, and those are of course stronger in the cabin crew.
And yes, the pink brigade is acting even more reprehensible than the orange one is, but not by much. And not growing in a crisis could be a huge strategic failure of the current management, but that is a different story altogether.
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You might be right, I am not desputing the strategic decision, but what I meant was that firing people for just a few months, when you have huge expansion plans, is just a demonstration of power, with the sole objective to terrify the workforce, but no justification from an operational point of view.
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The latter boils down to the fact that everyone is for themselves for two reasons. First, contracts making union membership an offence which results in immediate dismissal. Second, lack of advanced labour legislation in many Eastern European countries. Just to give you an idea of the contrast between East and West - have you ever thought why no French airline ever offers P2F schemes? Because the labour legislation in France forbids any legal entity from doing this, and airlines are no exception. On the contrary, in Eastern Europe many ACMI companies with fleets of 3 or 5 aircraft with an average age of 25 years get involved with such things. Just because there's nothing to stop them from doing so. Hence, everyone standing their ground however they find fit is not "the new normal", but the ordinary normal in many places. And this makes cases which can be used by a number of other carriers to threaten their workforce. "You see what the guys next door did? You want us to to do the same in one way or another? No? Then sign on the dotted line." Divide and conquer at its finest.
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any ideas what the salary would be for an experienced FO in AUH? (I know, there are serious and justified questions on the nature of the company / morality of them having just binned a load of people - but there may be no other choice soon enough)
I said "comparing to the EU rates",,,
AFAIK the cost of living is comparable to the EU (according to Numbeo, CMIIAW). According to PPJN the starting salary of a Captain at WIZZ is €6500 per month before tax after sector pay. Now that is disgraceful.
AFAIK the cost of living is comparable to the EU (according to Numbeo, CMIIAW). According to PPJN the starting salary of a Captain at WIZZ is €6500 per month before tax after sector pay. Now that is disgraceful.
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Speaking of pick-up points, how have those been chosen? Maybe there's some option for "assistance from the company in finding accommodation nearby"? There have been cases with other companies when they have a finger in the pie in a certain hotel, residential complex etc and do various things to "encourage" crews to stay there. Can this be the case?
