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Old 14th Apr 2020, 12:58
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Well I guess so. Thing to keep their salaries 'normal' as long as possible. But I think that they dont have that many Training Pilots and so on to cover all those flight especially at the beginning where they were also doing those repatriation flights. I wouldn't be surprised that it was just rumour to justify their upcomming redundancies tho.
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Old 14th Apr 2020, 13:03
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I don’t trust them anymore. No fair play at all
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Old 14th Apr 2020, 13:07
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Most of companies are not fair these days to be honest. Main thing is to live this through no matter what - and if you need money you release your employees.
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Old 14th Apr 2020, 13:13
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so why they say that had 1.5B Euros liquity and could survive for year and a half with all the fleet grounded... etc etc
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Old 14th Apr 2020, 13:17
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one word (actually two) - stock market.

Other thing is that they might expect whole that sittuation to be no as expensive as it came out. Or they just dont want to go under certain point in those 1,5b€ to have the edge to launch at full capacity as soon as it ends. Who knows?
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Old 14th Apr 2020, 14:29
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I also heard they first called floaters and contractors.
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Old 14th Apr 2020, 18:43
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What is the true level of redundancy if they have removed all of the contractors?
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Old 14th Apr 2020, 21:52
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They haven's just removed some of the contractors. More than a few redundancies include local contracts, even people with 15 years seniority in the company. All based on obscure "performance" indicators that will never be revealed.
That's what you get when you don't have a union, you are at the complete mercy of the company even in extreme circumstances like this.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 00:04
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First of all, unfortunately Wizz Air will never have an union, the company prosecute internally those who wanted to create it, some workers they tried a couple of times and at the end they got fired, they appealed to cort, some were forced to be re-employed back by Wizz, the company never allowed them to fly, they were just sitting at home receiving a basic salary, this situation lasted more than a year.

The second point, they announced a cut of 265 pilots based on performance, well...I can tell you what that “perfomance” was based on: nationalities, 95% of those pilots were expats. No nationals were touched, ( Hungary, Romania etc.) most of the affected pilots were Italians, many of them from Cluj and Bucharest bases. Company didn't give the chance even to go to a reduced roster or an unpaid leave. Nothing at all.

Bad times for pilots.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 02:04
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Not entirely true as i personally know at least 15 of the many Hungarian pilots who were fired yesterday. Also no pattern to recognize as there are TRI, LTC, recent internal upgrade as well as cadet level amongst them. About other nationalities I'm not sure of, however it is true that they haven't given any reason whatsoever to whom are affected.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 02:20
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Ok...then 90% of Expats...
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 07:33
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that is true. Most of the pilots affected were expats yesterday. Locals are protecting one each other. And because there is not a Union... there was not transparency.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 07:39
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I see a personal vendetta. How else would you explain 20+ Hungarians ONLY from BUD and many more from other bases? Likewise Romanians and Polish pilots lost their jobs too. They were all locals, based at home.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 08:32
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not at all. I don’t know a single Romanian fired but some Spanish friends over there.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 09:42
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So maybe the criteria was salary, all in all? If you fire a person with seniority, you won't need to pay seniority bonus anymore. As for Hungarians, they still won't find a job right now anyway; maybe the intention was that most of them will re-employ back at Wizz after the crisis anyway?
Yet another very popular criteria for making a choice in Eastern Europe is simply "I don't like you".
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 11:08
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Exactly my thoughts, except that as far as i know seniority bonus was cancelled last month: everyone is back to basic year one minus 25% regardless the time spent in the company in the left seat. Other than that just a personnel vendetta on some is what happened. Sad story.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 15:53
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Then they might have a problem with captains. And either they will go for fast upgrade for let say mildly experienced FO's or whatever. If I'd be in wizz air 10 years just to be fired to get rid of my seniority bonus and asked to come back to them as a captain but with no seniority (screw bonus but all other profits that comes with it like priority in picking bases or better flexibility with schedule) I'd probably laugh at them soooo baddly. 2-3 years as a captain and probably for like 8000ish flight hours gives you an opportunity to be rather picky if it goes about job positions even these days. I'm not saying that you just go to any airline and get a job but your experience will be taken into account as soon as whole that comedy with COVID ends.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 20:16
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In fact they will have problems to find Captains or experienced instructors on A320, also potential FOs for upgrade. Because everybody knows now how they play this game.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 20:54
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Well then this is an oportunity for cadets to actually start flying on type and for those not very experienced FO's to start logging their PIC hours on MTOW>54t
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 21:19
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Hold your horses, gentlemen. Firstly they need to survive the crisis without going belly up (yeah, even despite the fact about loudly announced big amounts of reserves, in cash). And after the survival task is done, we will see how they'll be doing.
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