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Oh yes, I am fully aware of their basing policy, my preference is Poland anyway. I was just wondering how it would work with that base and their legislation. Considering only a captain year 1 basic salary, would it be 45000*1.25=56240 divided by 14? That's around 4000 gross and if the tax treaty between Austria and Switzerland is anything like the one here in Germany, then it is not a favourable deal.
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I dont know the specific for every country, but in general the salary is heavily dependant on the flight pay everywhere.
From what I know the overall package is better than Eurowings or Lauda, probably even Austrian, but none of these companies are setting the bar very high to be honest.
From what I know the overall package is better than Eurowings or Lauda, probably even Austrian, but none of these companies are setting the bar very high to be honest.
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Oh yes, I am fully aware of their basing policy, my preference is Poland anyway. I was just wondering how it would work with that base and their legislation. Considering only a captain year 1 basic salary, would it be 45000*1.25=56240 divided by 14? That's around 4000 gross and if the tax treaty between Austria and Switzerland is anything like the one here in Germany, then it is not a favourable deal.
Of course now it's not normal circumstances, people earn less - both the company and employees are in survival mode
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Curious to see the tax agreement in that case. Has to be good otherwise it would not be so senior.
As for the current situation, I'm confident the whole industry will start recovering slowly but gradually in a couple of months, with pre-Covid levels to be reached by 2022.
As for the current situation, I'm confident the whole industry will start recovering slowly but gradually in a couple of months, with pre-Covid levels to be reached by 2022.
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Regarding Wizzair Abu Dhabi... Random roster, and if coming as non rated, deduct 415eur from mentioned amount. It's officially lowest paid pilot job in Gulf.
Base can be changed no earlier than 3 years on a contract.
Base can be changed no earlier than 3 years on a contract.
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Thanks for the reply. A question you might be able to answer : before all the mess of the covid started I was told i could be assessed for a DEC NTR Captain position, for a European base, as I am current and flying the A380 but also have an active A330 and A320 on my licence (although no flights for the past 3 years on these) and TRI/TRE on all the 3 types (I pay for my EASA SIM yearly renewal). If You join as "NTR" with a valid A320 rating on your licence (and over 8k hours on type) what kind of type rating do you have to go through ?!
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No problem my friend... I would really like to help you but I don't know the answer... Maybe the best would be to apply and see what does recruitment say... So far no one is flying but I guess as soon as borders open, Wizz will start massive recruitment again...
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A question to Dirk and others who have worked at Wizz: what was the situation inside the company regarding hiring low hour cadets (without previous job experience at airline, no jet hours, etc)?
Firstly, are they hiring these at all? I know that they advertise as they do, but wonder what's the real situation.
And do they have any preferences of those who have finished Integrated training versus modular or any others?
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Firstly, are they hiring these at all? I know that they advertise as they do, but wonder what's the real situation.
And do they have any preferences of those who have finished Integrated training versus modular or any others?
Thanks.
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Well I am not working there but got an information from one psychologist that works with them during their assessments that they hire in specified order. Experienced and type rated on the first place, then experienced but on another type, then cadets from their pilot academy and then cadets overall. Whatever their needs are in that order.
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Yeah, I think everyone's aware that the recruitment is closed (note I asked "what was the situation").
And the priority list is logical too - they want to hire a person who'd require minimal investment thus having most experience.
But the question still remains - considering large pool of choice, do zero hour cadets slip inside or it's more an exception?
And the priority list is logical too - they want to hire a person who'd require minimal investment thus having most experience.
But the question still remains - considering large pool of choice, do zero hour cadets slip inside or it's more an exception?
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So far what I've seen in Wizz, the nationality matters.
Hungarians, Polish, Slovaks, Lithuanian, etc get an easier access.
Also, I applied in October (TR320, <500h), no answer. Same for other colleagues.
Of course for now obvious reasons.
Hungarians, Polish, Slovaks, Lithuanian, etc get an easier access.
Also, I applied in October (TR320, <500h), no answer. Same for other colleagues.
Of course for now obvious reasons.
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True, in my experience the company hired the vast majority of their FOs from the local countries of their bases.
You have more chances as a Lithuanian cadet than an experienced pilot from let's say the UK or Germany. They know locals are going to stay, and not complain, while the western pilots will go somewhere else as soon as they can.
All other things being equal they will favour experience.
You have more chances as a Lithuanian cadet than an experienced pilot from let's say the UK or Germany. They know locals are going to stay, and not complain, while the western pilots will go somewhere else as soon as they can.
All other things being equal they will favour experience.
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Yeah, I think everyone's aware that the recruitment is closed (note I asked "what was the situation").
And the priority list is logical too - they want to hire a person who'd require minimal investment thus having most experience.
But the question still remains - considering large pool of choice, do zero hour cadets slip inside or it's more an exception?
And the priority list is logical too - they want to hire a person who'd require minimal investment thus having most experience.
But the question still remains - considering large pool of choice, do zero hour cadets slip inside or it's more an exception?
Thing is that as long as they have those experienced comming in - chances getting in as a non TR cadet are rather slim. Just like when Air Italy suspended their operation and filed for bankruptcy. They even posted job offer for Air Italy Pilots only. I don't know really how many of them came to wizz air. But one that we can be sure is that once this (coronavirus pandemy) is over they will have rather good flow of new pilots since many airlines will probably go bankrupt, meaning alot of experienced pilots on the market. They will probably spread evenly across domestic carriers and RYR and WZZ. It will last a while and it all depends on many various factors like - when it will actually end, how fast people will feel the need for flying (i.e. deffered summer vacation and so on) + one of i belive most important factor for now - B737MAX certification. I think as soon as they will be able to fly again wizz will have to contract cadets. They are not able to cover their needs for new pilots with Pilot Academy only.
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I think you might be underestimating how bad this crisis will affect Wizzair as well. If even big and established companies making 10x the profit that WZZ does (IAG, LH, FR, EZY) will look at redundancies, I don't expect Wizzair will be hiring anytime soon. They are not immune to this crisis, and they will suffer too.
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Thing about lowcosts is that they tend to earn way more cash than those you've mentioned. I've read somewhere that WZZ is able to withstand up to 6 months in those limited operations phase. Looks like they are doing quite well anyway. Seen reports of A321's flying to USA last week - I guess they were doing some kind of cargo operations. Plus Wizz is - if you look at it - the only one passenger airline in Hungary so government there might look at it somewhat as for national carrier and help in case things go really bad. Wizz air bankruptcy would pull BUD airport down too. Ryan might not be that lucky with that.
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They flew to USA to bring Canadians and Yankees back home and take Hungarians back to Europe. This wasn't a cargo operation. It would be interesting to know the numbers of passengers on these flights, both to North America and back to Europe.
"Low cost" is no longer a low cost if you ask me. There is reserve where they can drop the prices off the tickets. This would promote travelling and in that case it'd take approx. one year to recover to pre-crisis levels.
"Low cost" is no longer a low cost if you ask me. There is reserve where they can drop the prices off the tickets. This would promote travelling and in that case it'd take approx. one year to recover to pre-crisis levels.
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No, lowcost companies don't earn more money than those companies. Read the financial reports, they are widely available (hint, LH for example made more than 2 billions euro profit, wizzair around 300 millions last year).
All the companies mentioned above can withstand 6 months without flying. The thing that sets Wizzair apart is a much lower cost base and the lack of long haul operations.
All all of them are and were doing repatriation flights.
And those companies are far more valuable to the local economy than Wizzair, a company with the headquarter in Switzerland, where they pay their taxes, will ever be to Hungary. Hungary will not bail Wizzair, firstly because they will not need to be bailed out, secondly because they are not even an Hungarian company.
BUD airport is nothing more than a fart compared to LHR, CDG, AMS or any other major airport.
I am not saying Wizzair will go bust, they are actually one of the most solid airlines out there, but from here to hiring again is going to be a long step.
All the companies mentioned above can withstand 6 months without flying. The thing that sets Wizzair apart is a much lower cost base and the lack of long haul operations.
All all of them are and were doing repatriation flights.
And those companies are far more valuable to the local economy than Wizzair, a company with the headquarter in Switzerland, where they pay their taxes, will ever be to Hungary. Hungary will not bail Wizzair, firstly because they will not need to be bailed out, secondly because they are not even an Hungarian company.
BUD airport is nothing more than a fart compared to LHR, CDG, AMS or any other major airport.
I am not saying Wizzair will go bust, they are actually one of the most solid airlines out there, but from here to hiring again is going to be a long step.