Wizzair

[Augis1999]

Hello Guys,

Questions are more related to Wizzair employers or pilots who recently were taking assessment.

​​​​​​Are they still recruiting? How long usually it takes to get any answer from Wizzair after applying? Is there any bond for cadet who is already type rated on A320, by the way do they recruit type rated cadets?

That is all questions. Thank you in advance.
Kind regards.
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[Mienjung]

Thanks for the reply! Yes I've been there and for the first day i just wore a shirt without a tie and jacket and the last two days i was fully suited up

[Bus Driver Man]

Originally Posted by MCT SET

hi all just curious to wizz air policy on hand flying the aircraft and day to day SOP not talking about assessments and recurrent training. are they pretty liberal and relaxed about letting the PF flying the plane or are they more restrictive with the SOP

You can switch the A/THR or the FD off anytime, but not both at the same time.
Visual approaches allowed, but mandatory stabilisation at 1000' (and A/THR).
If you are in the right seat, it depends on the captain. Some of them are scared of hand flying, some encourage it.
The OM-B recommends to maintain your flying skills, but with either the A/THR on or the FD on, hand flying skills are rather deteriorating slowly.

[rp001]

I have the same question
Was anyone invited to selection.
I applied in december but i still did not get any answer.

today when I went so their site i saw that it is changed a little bit in what we must have...
they added
Valid UPRT certificate in accordance with FCL.745.A. (from 19th Dec 2019)

Does anyone know if that applies for everyone or just for pilots starting their school after december 2019?

Regards

[Rottweiler22]

I recently attended a Wizz selection. I won’t post any public info on the assessment itself as they ask that we don’t.

But yes, an Upset Prevention and Recovery Training (UPRT) certificate is required before starting a type rating for them. This is mandatory if it’s your first type rating. If you have a current type rating (Airbus or not) then you don’t need the UPRT. So sadly if it’s your first type rating, then you will have to go out and get the UPRT ASAP.

[eiffel]

For those joining with a Type-Rating, just be aware that you will be bonded too…. Wizz is the only airline bonding for an OCC (the compulsary 2-week company induction course you do when you join an airline) ---> 5000€ bond over one year.

[Booglebox]

I recently attended a Wizz selection. I won’t post any public info on the assessment itself as they ask that we don’t.

Funny, when I was there (September) the guy running it said that we were welcome to post as much info on here as we like.
By the way, if anyone has any questions about the assessment process, feel free to send me a pm.

[Bus Driver Man]

Originally Posted by eiffel

For those joining with a Type-Rating, just be aware that you will be bonded too…. Wizz is the only airline bonding for an OCC (the compulsary 2-week company induction course you do when you join an airline) ---> 5000€ bond over one year.

No they are not. I've flown for an airline where I was bonded for 1 year for an OCC. If you leave within 1 year, you repay the OCC cost. And that was a legacy carrier.
Sim sessions and training resources aren't for free. Isn't it normal that a company doesn't want to invest in pilots who leave after less than a year from finishing the training?

[bulldog89]

Originally Posted by Bus Driver Man

No they are not. I've flown for an airline where I was bonded for 1 year for an OCC. If you leave within 1 year, you repay the OCC cost. And that was a legacy carrier.
Sim sessions and training resources aren't for free. Isn't it normal that a company doesn't want to invest in pilots who leave after less than a year from finishing the training?

In normal business sectors that's called "business risk" and training to employees is a business cost.
If you want to keep your pilots just make them happy.

[BarryMG]

Originally Posted by bulldog89

In normal business sectors that's called "business risk" and training to employees is a business cost.
If you want to keep your pilots just make them happy.

I've worked outside of aviation sector before, in a large, multinational corporation and a smaller one, and in both it was a common practice to bond employees for a year or two in case of more expensive trainings. So it's not just a special "airline thing",

[bulldog89]

Originally Posted by BarryMG

I've worked outside of aviation sector before, in a large, multinational corporation and a smaller one, and in both it was a common practice to bond employees for a year or two in case of more expensive trainings. So it's not just a special "airline thing",

Can you be more specific? This is new to me...
My current company provides training to a lot of employees which is the order of 20000€ per person every 4/5 years, plus traveling and living expenses (usually for three weeks in Japan or the USA). Not a single euro is paid by the employees and there's no bond at all...this because the company NEEDS his employees to be trained.

And yes, we're talking about skills that can be used while working with direct competitors (a sort of type rating, just not for planes).

[Bus Driver Man]

Originally Posted by bulldog89

Can you be more specific? This is new to me...
My current company provides training to a lot of employees which is the order of 20000€ per person every 4/5 years, plus traveling and living expenses (usually for three weeks in Japan or the USA). Not a single euro is paid by the employees and there's no bond at all...this because the company NEEDS his employees to be trained.

And yes, we're talking about skills that can be used while working with direct competitors (a sort of type rating, just not for planes).

A bond doesn’t necessarily mean that the employee is paying for it. I don’t know the conditions of the OCC bond at Wizz Air, but at the company I was referring to, you only repay the training cost IF you leave within 1 year. It could be different at Wizz Air and half of the training cost might be deducted from salary during the first year. That depends on the contract they offer now.
The bond that I have at Wizz Air includes a salary deduction for a total of half of the training cost. If I stay for 4 years, I get half of those deductions back, so the total cost for me would be 25% of the total cost. But I have to admit that their estimate of the training cost is a bit exaggerated.

I know of other, non-aviation companies, that also include a clause in the contract to repay the training cost pro-rata in case the employee leaves within a certain period.

[bulldog89]

Originally Posted by Bus Driver Man

I know of other, non-aviation companies, that also include a clause in the contract to repay the training cost pro-rata in case the employee leave within a certain period.

Such as? I genuinely don't know any of them outside the aviation industry.

[eiffel]

BusDriverMan, with due respect, I think you are being mistaken. In your case, you are refering to a Type Rating bond….
Bonding for a Type Rating is fair enough…. (Most airlines do it and it's quite alright in my opinion).
But bonding for an OCC is a complete different story !.... What would be the next step? Deducting part of your salary for your CRM recurrent once a year? Lowering your wage on your LPC month?
Apparently, for the OCC, Wizz takes out of your salary 415€/month for a year (5000€ total).
Again a Type rating is on your licence and a qualification which is (potentially) transferable to another airline. An OCC is not. It's inherent and specific to each individual airlines (regardless of your qualifications and experience). Unless I am unaware of other airlines doing it, I believe Wizz is the only airline to have such a practice.

[tobeapilothaha]

How are the salaries in Skopje, Macedonia for first officer? Thanks.

[Bus Driver Man]

Originally Posted by eiffel

BusDriverMan, with due respect, I think you are being mistaken. In your case, you are refering to a Type Rating bond….
Bonding for a Type Rating is fair enough…. (Most airlines do it and it's quite alright in my opinion).
But bonding for an OCC is a complete different story !.... What would be the next step? Deducting part of your salary for your CRM recurrent once a year? Lowering your wage on your LPC month?
Apparently, for the OCC, Wizz takes out of your salary 415€/month for a year (5000€ total).
Again a Type rating is on your licence and a qualification which is (potentially) transferable to another airline. An OCC is not. It's inherent and specific to each individual airlines (regardless of your qualifications and experience). Unless I am unaware of other airlines doing it, I believe Wizz is the only airline to have such a practice.

I did mention that I wasn’t aware of the exact conditions of the OCC bond at Wizz Air and that the other company I was referring to bonds you for 1 year for an OCC as well, but without any salary deduction. You only repay the training cost if you leave within 1 year.
I agree that deducting salary for an OCC is not correct, but a clause in your contract to repay the cost if you leave within a year is only fair in my opinion. That’s how any bond should be in my opinion. No salary deduction and you only pay (pro-rata) if you leave before the end of your bond period. Unfortunately not the case at Wizz Air.

Wizz Air has different bonds for different situations. They are clearly mentioned before signing any contract. If that results in pilots refusing to sign it, then that’s Wizz Air’s problem and it’s up to their HR department to review the training bonds.

[seventhreedriver]

Originally Posted by eiffel

BusDriverMan, with due respect, I think you are being mistaken. In your case, you are refering to a Type Rating bond….
Bonding for a Type Rating is fair enough…. (Most airlines do it and it's quite alright in my opinion).
But bonding for an OCC is a complete different story !.... What would be the next step? Deducting part of your salary for your CRM recurrent once a year? Lowering your wage on your LPC month?
Apparently, for the OCC, Wizz takes out of your salary 415€/month for a year (5000€ total).
Again a Type rating is on your licence and a qualification which is (potentially) transferable to another airline. An OCC is not. It's inherent and specific to each individual airlines (regardless of your qualifications and experience). Unless I am unaware of other airlines doing it, I believe Wizz is the only airline to have such a practice.

You only get this contract if you are either changing seats (current FO joining as a CPT without PIC experience) or have less than 500 hours as an FO (cadet pilot). As most airlines require at least 500 hours on type to be eligible as a type rated pilot. Many guys jumped ship after 500 A320 hours. Pilots with less than 500 hours also require a bit more training hence the cost.

[LNAV737]

Bond

I spent four years in DXB flying for a well known carrier even dough I joined as type rated i had 25,000$ bond in a period of three years.There was no actual salary deduction but had i left any time before those three years time frame they would have asked me to pay off the rest ....25,000$ for a four sim sessions including LPC and OCC .... so there is worst out there .... joining as a 23 years old guy with 300 h total and get to fly A320/321 with good career prospect is more then a good deal plus getting half of it back after ...the one might start look at the things differently

[juris]

The deal with getting half of it back is gone. At least when I was at the interview in August they said that.

[LO_152]

Hello guys, i have been searching in this thread for a while now, but didnt find what i was looking for.

Can somebody give me some estimates for the Vienna base?
I red that the basic salary is pretty low, but most of it gets adjusted with the sector pay.
How much does a FO coming new into the company with 1500hrs previous 737 expirience net in this base?

thanks