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Well... The bottom line of all this discussion, is that Wizzair is the company where even the employees (pilots that is) think it is OK to bend the contracts, avoid taxes, disrespect the labour laws and just fire anybody who would like to form a trade union. Apparently everybody who joins Wizz Air knows it from the start.
It is funny that types like Soundless have proven my point exactly with their flaming posts in this thread.
Sad, that those pilots who stayed in Wizz Air long enough or never worked for another airline, truly start to believe that what's going on in the company is the norm and are somehow convinced that they are - I quote - "living as a king".
And basically yes - in Wizz Air this is the name of the game, and its up to each and every individual to decide whether you want to be a part of it.
It is funny that types like Soundless have proven my point exactly with their flaming posts in this thread.
Sad, that those pilots who stayed in Wizz Air long enough or never worked for another airline, truly start to believe that what's going on in the company is the norm and are somehow convinced that they are - I quote - "living as a king".
And basically yes - in Wizz Air this is the name of the game, and its up to each and every individual to decide whether you want to be a part of it.
Circus Wizz never ends.
I am looking forward to see who are going to fly all their aircraft soon. Floating Cabin Crew in Luton, because they are to cheap to pay people proper salary.
Constant tax avoidance / evasion for their crews.
Enjoy your crew meals on your 13 hour duty days, never mind the hotel accommodation.
I know of contractors taking over 800 Euros a day, and they name their own schedule, and works when they want.
And all of these contractors are just waiting for better jobs, thats why they dont join Wizz.
The rapid expansion is a massive issue for Wizz, you have low experienced Captains flying with low experienced FO's.
Need I say anything more?
I am looking forward to see who are going to fly all their aircraft soon. Floating Cabin Crew in Luton, because they are to cheap to pay people proper salary.
Constant tax avoidance / evasion for their crews.
Enjoy your crew meals on your 13 hour duty days, never mind the hotel accommodation.
I know of contractors taking over 800 Euros a day, and they name their own schedule, and works when they want.
And all of these contractors are just waiting for better jobs, thats why they dont join Wizz.
The rapid expansion is a massive issue for Wizz, you have low experienced Captains flying with low experienced FO's.
Need I say anything more?
) you preatty much said it all.You know what's funny? You guys are getting all worked up and personal because you don't like to hear the facts.
I don't see anybody here protesting that whatever was said about Wizz Air was incorrect; you just tell us that saying these facts publically is somehow saying '****' about Wizzair and is not appropriate.
Please if you want to tell me that anything I said about Wizzair is factually incorrect - do that, I would be glad to discuss it.
Otherwise you are just angry that somebody thinks that **** smells bad, while you love it.
I don't see anybody here protesting that whatever was said about Wizz Air was incorrect; you just tell us that saying these facts publically is somehow saying '****' about Wizzair and is not appropriate.
Please if you want to tell me that anything I said about Wizzair is factually incorrect - do that, I would be glad to discuss it.
Otherwise you are just angry that somebody thinks that **** smells bad, while you love it.
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Spot on - I agree ! At the end of the day, everybody who accepts to be part of these low cost companies is him-/herself willing to be "cheap", its an ethical question in my opinion, if you wanna to go on the "cheap" way . I did it myself, learnt, escaped, not anymore "cheap".
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Before the usual Eastern European and WZZ bashing starts just have a look, or rather listen to the captain's voice. Not your typical Eastern European accent i would say. It is the Captain's unprofessional attitude towards ATC and doing the job safely, nothing to do with the airline's culture IMHO.
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As with every European airline be it SAIL Ryanair etc with dodgy contracts you are responsible, yes. Nothing new...
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Base and TR costs
I am looking at spending on an MCC and JOC in order to apply for Wizz as a cadet first officer and I wonder if any of you chaps could help me with a couple of queries:
1. At what point do you find out your allocated base?
2. What are the chances of getting Luton as a base (strong personal reasons)?
3. Are base transfers easy or hard?
4. Do you pay for the A320TR up front, from salary or bonded?
Thank you in advance,
RL
1. At what point do you find out your allocated base?
2. What are the chances of getting Luton as a base (strong personal reasons)?
3. Are base transfers easy or hard?
4. Do you pay for the A320TR up front, from salary or bonded?
Thank you in advance,
RL
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Disregard my previous question 🙂
How much can a junior FO expect to take home after tax based on a typical roster in a busy base?
And what are the busy bases besides Warsaw and Budapest.
I heard about the floating contract but I haven't found much on it.
How much can a junior FO expect to take home after tax based on a typical roster in a busy base?
And what are the busy bases besides Warsaw and Budapest.
I heard about the floating contract but I haven't found much on it.
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Salary depends on what type of contract you have (Local or Confair). Confair has low tax as it is declared in Switzerland. But around 2500-3500€ seems fair as cadet pilot not FO. You will get slightly more with a foreign contract (confair).
Floating contract, you add 600€~ of monthly allowance to your salary, roaster is 20/10 not available in all bases.
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Maybe its a little off topic (still Ryan Air and Wizz Air offer some of the best contracts with bases in Poland for example) but I can really not understand why so many people on the forum write stuff like "where even the employees (pilots that is) think it is OK to bend the contracts, avoid taxes, disrespect the labour laws and just fire anybody who would like to form a trade union".
While in reality one of the greatest financial bonuses in the pilot job is that you are: FREE. By that I mean you can have your place of residence almost everywhere in the world and get a decent paying job. What can be greater than being able to move to another country if for example a socialist government (or any other you dislike) get elected or a government that wish to restrict your personal freedom? Its almost like with stock trading the greatest financial and social benefit of the job to live wherever the politics of the nation suit you.
While in reality one of the greatest financial bonuses in the pilot job is that you are: FREE. By that I mean you can have your place of residence almost everywhere in the world and get a decent paying job. What can be greater than being able to move to another country if for example a socialist government (or any other you dislike) get elected or a government that wish to restrict your personal freedom? Its almost like with stock trading the greatest financial and social benefit of the job to live wherever the politics of the nation suit you.
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Maybe its a little off topic (still Ryan Air and Wizz Air offer some of the best contracts with bases in Poland for example) but I can really not understand why so many people on the forum write stuff like "where even the employees (pilots that is) think it is OK to bend the contracts, avoid taxes, disrespect the labour laws and just fire anybody who would like to form a trade union".
While in reality one of the greatest financial bonuses in the pilot job is that you are: FREE. By that I mean you can have your place of residence almost everywhere in the world and get a decent paying job. What can be greater than being able to move to another country if for example a socialist government (or any other you dislike) get elected or a government that wish to restrict your personal freedom? Its almost like with stock trading the greatest financial and social benefit of the job to live wherever the politics of the nation suit you.
While in reality one of the greatest financial bonuses in the pilot job is that you are: FREE. By that I mean you can have your place of residence almost everywhere in the world and get a decent paying job. What can be greater than being able to move to another country if for example a socialist government (or any other you dislike) get elected or a government that wish to restrict your personal freedom? Its almost like with stock trading the greatest financial and social benefit of the job to live wherever the politics of the nation suit you.
in reality you don’t make a deal with government you make a deal with the society you are living in. Safety, security is the first deal you do in any society.. and it restricts already your freedom .. the price is adherence to the law ...
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@Flytster: Well you have to pay the legal tax of course but you are free to choose where you live as a pilot. For example as a pilot I can live in Poland and pay the minimal ZUS for companies + 19 % linear tax for companies (I am not yet done with my fATPL + FI but I own a plane that I rent) instead of for example 47 % tax in Norway and extra tax on everything you can imagine is fun to have (like a car) in your daily life + tax if you own more than about 150 000 Euro (because you keep investing your money for example instead of spending it wildly on unnecessary things). And its not barely legal but 100 % legal to live wherever you wish to live in Europe if you are a pilot and you have to pay the tax in the country where your company is active. As a pilot you are actually flying everywhere where the airline want you to so some people can probably have an official base in Switzerland and where they do actually live depends on where they are actually performing their work for the airline. As for me the Polish system is currently good enough after living in Norway its almost as a tax free heaven. As for social security, pension, health insurance.... you get much more "bang for your buck" if you buy private insurance and keep saving your money in some stock fund or keep investing in aircraft, flats, homes for rent literally anything (except for risky shares or scams) will be much much much better than government programs that are invented to make you pay more than you get back as pension.
PS. You do not make a deal with society, over 50 % of society do not even vote. You are being governed by politicians and as a pilot in addition to having the best job in the world (Its almost not a job (maybe except the paperwork bit) because its fun and enjoyable so its almost as being paid to do something you love) you are able to say "I do not like this government so I move somewhere where the government suit me". Try that with any other land based job (other than being a stock trader) without knowing the local language to where you wish to move.
PS. You do not make a deal with society, over 50 % of society do not even vote. You are being governed by politicians and as a pilot in addition to having the best job in the world (Its almost not a job (maybe except the paperwork bit) because its fun and enjoyable so its almost as being paid to do something you love) you are able to say "I do not like this government so I move somewhere where the government suit me". Try that with any other land based job (other than being a stock trader) without knowing the local language to where you wish to move.
