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Old 19th Dec 2020, 11:12
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To sleep in your own bed, while working for an airline is the highest achivement you can make. Commuting and being away from home for many many weeks does not contribute to your performance at all.
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 11:40
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True that - and it gets a lot worse when you're no longer in your 20s, single, with no dependents and with relatively young and healthy parents. That's why I wouldn't be quick-handed to judge anyone for the compromises they make for the sake of being based in their home city. You never know what their personal circumstances might be. Maybe they have no viable alternative.
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 13:00
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As a commuter (hopefully not forever) on reasonably good T&C's, I have to say you're right.
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Old 28th Dec 2020, 14:58
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46 city pairs were removed from the 2021 schedule. 22 bases are affected the worst ones are MXP and BUD (six and four routes respectively).
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Old 28th Dec 2020, 16:38
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Wait, no big announcements on the press? How surprising
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Old 28th Dec 2020, 16:57
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I reckon this will be the case not only for Wizz in the first half of 2021. We can only hope that vaccines will be effective so that we can start going to some sort of normality for summer and winter season.
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Old 29th Dec 2020, 10:40
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I'm not sure what to think of this, hopefully they are not testing the waters for p2f...

https://wizzair.com/en-gb/informatio...20-type-rating
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Old 29th Dec 2020, 11:49
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Looks like just type rating offer as ATO to me, nothing to do with job or future job
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Old 29th Dec 2020, 11:50
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It is just a type rating course, I don't see them offering line training or promising anything else other than an entry in your license.
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Old 29th Dec 2020, 14:02
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Probably not now but make no mistake that the spin doctors are having in the works...
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Old 29th Dec 2020, 15:53
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A couple of years ago, I compared and contrasted the easyJet and wizz NTR DEC type rating costs, and wizz was about half the cost of the rip off easyJet scheme, which was a plus in their favour (although I took neither job, choosing to remain at my current employer who didn't charge me a bean for my rating; and quite right too)! Of course p2f is a BIG no no. Paying for a rating with no job - well, they can be very cheap, close on 11 grand, (cheaper than an LPC on some types) so it can be good for keeping in practice and enhancing the CV. Damn all use without the circuits though!

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Old 29th Dec 2020, 20:42
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guys, Iím sot surprised if it would be a Pay2fly. But even if not. Here is my advice. Avoid this company as much as you can. Very toxic place without respect for pilots.
Remember what they did in March. They asked for lower salaries, everybody accepted for avoidsing layoffs and then they fired 1000 people.
after that they made people reapply and to pass through a new Assestments and pay their own expenses (even flight tickets) and Wizz knoced out again some of the application for second time...

I just hope Wizz will find 2021 and ahead what they deserve.

sorry to insist guys, but try to be as far as possible. Even if you are desperate for flying guys, there will be always an option if you are patient. Recovery is gonna be strong.

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Old 30th Dec 2020, 10:13
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If you have an ATO with simulators which aren't running anywhere close to max capacity and you also have instructors who are anything but busy now (remember, BUD base was down to 4 flights per week not too long ago, probably not much busier now), why wouldn't you offer a self-funded course to someone willing to do an A320 type rating now for whatever reason? The advertisement explicitly says that it's not a job offer and does not include base training.
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Old 16th Jan 2021, 22:06
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A crew planner was appointed to Cabin Crew Regional Manager South (the boss of all cabin crew members based in Budapest, Debrecen, Belgrade, Tuzla, Skopje and Tirana). He joined the company three years ago as a crew dispatcher.
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Old 16th Jan 2021, 22:12
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Not surprising. I remember 4/5 years ago when a newly appointed Captain a few weeks after the upgrade was made Base Captain in one of the northern bases, only to be fired after one or two years, after many reports from the base pilots.
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 11:02
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Wizz Air Employment Under Norwegian Regulatory Oversight - A Win for Employees

Norwegian CAA now confirming that Wizz Air operating bases in Norway are regarded as under Norwegian regulatory oversight, also regarding working environment laws. This is huge for WZZ employees that will then have to be permanently based in Norway if WZZ wishes to continue with bases in NO.

Norwegian working environment laws and worker protection is second to none. This means that for to-be Norway-based crew, unionization and collective agreements are not only possible, but totally realistic, as fully protected by Norwegian legal system. That is the case regardless of what their contracts say. With Ryanair at Rygge base in a dispute with a cabin crew, Ryanair stated that all disputes need be dealt with in Irish court, as per the contract (WZZ contract states disputes to be resolved under arbitration in NL, I believe), however Norwegian labor protection and thereby legal court required the case to be dealt with in Norwegian Court. Ryanair lost majorly.

I hope the WZZ crew are aware of the ultimate protection and rights they now have if based in Norway, and that they work together for a fair collective agreement with actual job security. Norway has always been very strong in terms of what's called 'three-party cooperation', meaning that all businesses in Norway are based on a cooperation between company, union, and government, all working together. Unlike a few other countries, unions in Norway are known to be fair and work together with companies for everyone's sake, not against the company. All based on mutual respect.

Without a doubt, this is WZZ crews absolute best chance to take up the fight for a proper deal and collective agreement with an absolute guarantee that they are protected by law. All eyes in Norway are on WZZ and working environment, so a dispute will go in employee favor and not go unnoticed. This could have huge impact on conditions for crew in all of Europe.

Link for article (in Norwegian): https://finansavisen.no/nyheter/luft...GI4DzH8K5Ooeyw
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 12:19
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Great news! Hopefully more authorities follow suit, although I'm not sure if the same will work in the EU.
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