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I think the obvious violation of employee's rights are PREVENTING them to organize, Mr. Rado.
I think the obvious violation of employee's rights are PREVENTING them to organize, Mr. Rado.
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I’m not saying pilots should accept anything, I’m saying that pilots WILL accept anything to go back flying because :
A) it’s still more money than what 90% of pilots with no previous careers can make (forget the BS of transferable skills).
B) After to much time away from the flight deck your net worth as a pilot falls dramatically, as not even the crappiest loco operator in some forgotten counties will hire you.
All the rest is a good blabla.
I’m not saying pilots should accept anything, I’m saying that pilots WILL accept anything to go back flying because :
A) it’s still more money than what 90% of pilots with no previous careers can make (forget the BS of transferable skills).
B) After to much time away from the flight deck your net worth as a pilot falls dramatically, as not even the crappiest loco operator in some forgotten counties will hire you.
All the rest is a good blabla.
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“The attempt to use boycott and bullying tactics to force employees to organize is an obvious violation of their rights,” Wizz Air’s communications manager Andras Rado wrote in an email
Oh, so NOW they care about employees’ rights?
They wouldn’t know double standards if you wrapped them around a brick and whacked them in the head with it.
“The attempt to use boycott and bullying tactics to force employees to organize is an obvious violation of their rights,” Wizz Air’s communications manager Andras Rado wrote in an email
Oh, so NOW they care about employees’ rights?
They wouldn’t know double standards if you wrapped them around a brick and whacked them in the head with it.
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The other day O’Leary said in a interview to Eurocontrol that Varadi labor policy in Western Europe will not work. Also said that they are expanding to Siberia, Dubai or China because they are afraid of Ryanair.
Some colleagues inside Ryan training department told me that is expected very soon a massive Recruitment from Ryanair in Europe. And they will take Captain with or without Type Rating on 73.
also Volotea seems to be that is preparing something, most probably for January
Easyjet opening summer bases in Malaga and Faro...
I think everybody is preparing for the big wave, but seems to be that regarding manpower Ryanair did better their homeworks and are better prepare for their imminent expansion.
Some colleagues inside Ryan training department told me that is expected very soon a massive Recruitment from Ryanair in Europe. And they will take Captain with or without Type Rating on 73.
also Volotea seems to be that is preparing something, most probably for January
Easyjet opening summer bases in Malaga and Faro...
I think everybody is preparing for the big wave, but seems to be that regarding manpower Ryanair did better their homeworks and are better prepare for their imminent expansion.
This company is an abomination. I’m sure the Norwegian people would find it reasonable to feel pity for the poor Wizz air personal that will be forced to organise themselves for better terms and conditions. The humanity!
Face it the Norwegian have no interest in supporting an Eastern European company run by gangsters to save a few kroner. It just doesn’t work that way in Norway and they’ll leave soon enough.
Face it the Norwegian have no interest in supporting an Eastern European company run by gangsters to save a few kroner. It just doesn’t work that way in Norway and they’ll leave soon enough.
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Well noted, nickler. In fact, currency and recency are becoming even more of a concern short-term than earning potential. At this point, there are already quite a few A320 drivers out there who haven't been in a flight deck for over a year now. Think the charter lot who finished off the summer season in the autumn of 2019 but had no job to come back to in the summer of 2020. Also, plenty of TCX crew never found another job after September 2019.
With this in mind, Wizz air explicitly say that their normal hiring minima of X hours within the last Y months and last commercial flight within the last Z months no longer apply as a hard requirement. However, it's also sort of obvious that, if you have recent experience, you'll likely be looked upon more favorably than someone with a gap of over a year.
Does this put extra pressure on many unfortunate guys and girls? Absolutely. At that point, their game is about getting into flying at all costs for the sake of logging some recent hours. No improvement in conditions can be expected for as long as there's a choice between recent and not-so-recent candidates. After that gap in recency reduces, it will be the good old supply VS demand game.
With this in mind, Wizz air explicitly say that their normal hiring minima of X hours within the last Y months and last commercial flight within the last Z months no longer apply as a hard requirement. However, it's also sort of obvious that, if you have recent experience, you'll likely be looked upon more favorably than someone with a gap of over a year.
Does this put extra pressure on many unfortunate guys and girls? Absolutely. At that point, their game is about getting into flying at all costs for the sake of logging some recent hours. No improvement in conditions can be expected for as long as there's a choice between recent and not-so-recent candidates. After that gap in recency reduces, it will be the good old supply VS demand game.
Although agree with most of this analysis there’s the issue of supply vs demand coming back and somehow levelling things out again. Sure they’ll need pilots again but the cuts the boys and girls have accepted to get their recency are permanent. Pay and conditions never went up with the laws of supply and demand. During the best times with strong unions we’ve managed to get an inflation adjustment plus half a percent. Taking a 20 percent cut is something you will never ever get back.
I have very little sympathy for people believing it is okay to work for free just to be in the game. It undermines the whole industry and every other pilot who stood up for themselves over the last years.
I have very little sympathy for people believing it is okay to work for free just to be in the game. It undermines the whole industry and every other pilot who stood up for themselves over the last years.
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People who left the company this year: Head of Maintenance, Head of Ground Operations, Head of Operation Control Center, Head of Organization Development, Head of Internal Audit, Head of Financial Planning & Controlling, Chief Investment Officer, EVP/Group Chief Operating Officer, EVP/Deputy Chief Executive Officer. Things might not all be well then?
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They are experts for good PR and media advertising... They entered domestic market in Norway and Italy with hope for good load factors however LF are really weak (20-30pax). Without government support I am not sure for how long can they last with current cash burn... And Varadi started secondary business recently... I hope they will survive this winter until demand starts picking up again. Maybe this is the point where Wizz Air will finally become socially responsible towards their employees and change their attitude towards the stakeholders and stop focusing on shareholders only.
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Captain Salary at Wizz flying 3 days in November (10 days mandatory unpaid leave) = 2200 Euros.
I cannot imagine how much are making FO.
plus, bases in Eastern Europe than a Western Europe Pilot is hard to accept.
good luck Varadi and his team. Next months they are going to face what they created during pandemic.
I cannot imagine how much are making FO.
plus, bases in Eastern Europe than a Western Europe Pilot is hard to accept.
good luck Varadi and his team. Next months they are going to face what they created during pandemic.
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After two verdicts against Wizz Air by the Supreme Court in Romania, the airline is facing a further judicial blow. The Court is asking Wizz Air to admit defeat & publish the summary of those decisions in the national press & Wizz Air on-board magazine. The verdicts say Wizz discriminated against workers who tried to form a trade union and unfairly dismissed union representatives
After two verdicts against Wizz Air by the Supreme Court in Romania, the airline is facing a further judicial blow. The Court is asking Wizz Air to admit defeat & publish the summary of those decisions in the national press & Wizz Air on-board magazine. The verdicts say Wizz discriminated against workers who tried to form a trade union and unfairly dismissed union representatives
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I couldn't even count managers only Heads and above.
29 office positions are listed as vacant on their website at this moment, most of those for 3-4-5 months already. They can't find people even during these times for the pathetic compensation and conditions. El jefe told the press repeatedly that it's no problem if the office is understaffed because then the people need to prioritize their tasks to perform the most important 80%, the remaining 20% is unnecessary anyway. That's aviation for you. I'd say you better go for 100% when filing flight plans, arranging HOTAC, recording MELs, notifying crew members (just like disarming doors and performing stabilized approaches etc) but then again I must be too old to comprehend modern management practices.
I couldn't even count managers only Heads and above.
29 office positions are listed as vacant on their website at this moment, most of those for 3-4-5 months already. They can't find people even during these times for the pathetic compensation and conditions. El jefe told the press repeatedly that it's no problem if the office is understaffed because then the people need to prioritize their tasks to perform the most important 80%, the remaining 20% is unnecessary anyway. That's aviation for you. I'd say you better go for 100% when filing flight plans, arranging HOTAC, recording MELs, notifying crew members (just like disarming doors and performing stabilized approaches etc) but then again I must be too old to comprehend modern management practices.
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Wizz is not looking for current hrs or flight in last 12 months. All they want is your current Airbus Rating with Hrs on Type, they invite random for assessments each week. But despite of it, they are only looking for holding pool. Usually they invite 8 experineced pilots. First day, they are going to do test, group exercise and interview. Usually this day 6 pilots will not pass. Next day is SIM check and psychometric test. Due to no demand at all, the pass rate is very low. In my opinion it would be better to do a skype interview like in the past and invite the candidates for sim afterwards. Otherwise its just waste of money and time to go there during the pandemic. (own experience)
Dont waste your money buying some prep. service online, all you need to know is ATPL by heart
Wizz is not looking for current hrs or flight in last 12 months. All they want is your current Airbus Rating with Hrs on Type, they invite random for assessments each week. But despite of it, they are only looking for holding pool. Usually they invite 8 experineced pilots. First day, they are going to do test, group exercise and interview. Usually this day 6 pilots will not pass. Next day is SIM check and psychometric test. Due to no demand at all, the pass rate is very low. In my opinion it would be better to do a skype interview like in the past and invite the candidates for sim afterwards. Otherwise its just waste of money and time to go there during the pandemic. (own experience)
Dont waste your money buying some prep. service online, all you need to know is ATPL by heart
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That is going to be a tough nut to crack as i doubt they can pull the same stunt as in Norway with Polish crew flying out of their respective bases. No wonder the project has been postponed indefinitely.
That is going to be a tough nut to crack as i doubt they can pull the same stunt as in Norway with Polish crew flying out of their respective bases. No wonder the project has been postponed indefinitely.