Wizzair

[jonesyinthesky]

anyone know the likely Wizz t's and c's in Norway?, and the multiplier?

[booze]

Hi. They are managing it with so called out of base flying with crews based elsewhere as far as i know. Mostly Polish crews, so in that case Polish t&c-s apply with per diems added for being abroad. Cheers

[sterkulf]

In other words, social dumping in a nutshell. Let’s hope Norway rids itself of this plague sooner than later

[Clop_Clop]

What about the Primera case in Denmark, that would imply Wizzair based crew in Norway need to be on collective Norwegian deal instead of working on some Lithuanian, Swiss or other contractual engineering dogleg...

[dirk85]

And why is that? They are not based there, they just do maybe layovers or W rotations, like many other airlines.
Just because on the press they said they opened a base it does not mean they have crews permanently based there.

[Clop_Clop]

Ok so it's the planes only that are based there and crew flown in for a few days work and then go to their home base where perhaps the labor deals than the local ones are cheaper...

[dirk85]

By your logic you should force every Alitalia, Air France or Lufthansa crew, who every day are making layovers all over europe, to have a local contract in every station where they park the planes for the night.

Besides, I don’t even know if they will layover or not, or just go for W patterns

[Newcomer2]

Alitalia, Air France or Lufthansa don't do domestic flights outside their respective countries, like Wizz will do in Norway.

From what I heard, the crews will be based there a few months at a time, on Polish contracts.

[Clop_Clop]

Wizz flies domestically in Norway in this case but the example w Lufthansa AF Ali they don't. So it’s different. It’s 9th freedom flight in Wizz case… domestic flights by an airline from another country. (yes. i had to look it up)... but of course many others do the same but i think they usually have local contracts in place easy or ryan italy etc and not like here...

[747AC]

Hey guys, Has anyone heard anything from Pilot Recruitment or any info on the current hiring situation? Thanks

[TBSC]

20% of the pilots fired in April. The start of Wizz Abu Dhabi (which some people considered to be their savior in the ME) is pushed again and again (now to the middle of January and with only two aircraft). Per Eurocontrol data the company is flying 5% of the capacity operated last November (despite another 20 aircraft were delivered since). As of this moment 10 aircraft are flying out of 135. The biggest base (Budapest) is cut to four flights a week. Not four destinations but four flights. The majority of the remaining crew are on non-paid "holiday" during the winter season. Company communication is about improving demand from next month (since like May), not happenning. Go figure how much pilots they need. Unless they do another round of fire & re-hire (or replace with rookies) drive.

[PilotLZ]

All predictions of recruitment in early 2021 were based on the assumption that there would not be a resurgence of the pandemic, a second round of lockdowns and travel restrictions and abysmally low demand for flying throughout the winter (because, honestly, why would you go somewhere where everything is closed and a curfew is in place). Many countries on the route network remain off limits to foreigners indefinitely. Even if vaccines are successfully deployed in early 2021 and the acute stage of the public health crisis abates by the summer, never to come back, a return to more than 70-80% of 2019 flight numbers by the end of 2021 is unlikely. And, for now, Wizz air have enough pilots to cover 80% of their 2019 schedule, possibly up to 90% if some of the redundant pilots will be called back. So, late 2021 or early 2022 seems to be the optimistic time line for recruitment now.

[edgarflyer]

Does anybody know if the holding pool has some kind of expiry date? I’ve heard some airlines do 1 year.

I never got any information since I was put in the holding pool back in April.

[booze]

Internal rumor is that post covid19 salaries are going to be initially half of what pre-covid pay was. It's not clear whether this will apply to new hires/rehires or to everyone further dividing the pilot group thus preventing forming of a union some sort.

[PilotLZ]

Q2 2021 will be an interesting time if the EC does not extend the suspension of the 80-20 slot rule in March. The moment those slots are up for grabs, Wizz air are ready to take them. That's what JV has been indicating consistently in the past months. And this is something which can redefine the landscape in many parts of Europe which previously enjoyed a totally different setup.

[safelife]

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[Banana Joe]

booze

It seems to be confirmed. It applies to current employees as well when changing payscale i.e. FO - - - > SFO. Effectively an upgrade with a paycut.

[BarryMG]

It's not half, it's around 20% off - at least currently, I have not heard of any further paycuts.

[PilotLZ]

There was a 20% pay cut in late March - and, back then, the idea was to restore the pre-COVID salary after one year for current employees but to keep the new, lower pay scale for any new joiners. Then, in the summer, the length of service bonus was capped - as far as I remember, now any further year of service after the fifth one makes no difference to pay. Right now, many pilots are either on part-time contracts or on alternating periods of unpaid leave.

That's the part which is certain for now. Can anyone confirm whether the new, further reduced pay scale is a fact or just a rumour? If it's real, this is likely going to affect a number of other airlines across Europe, especially Eastern Europe.

[aviationvictim]

It’s confirmed Wizz will now be paying their pilots in pretzels and malt wine to keep cost down but maintain the Christmas spirit. They still expect to get 1000 applications every 2 minutes..