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Old 14th Oct 2020, 19:20
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Denys Hatton

Yes that sound really “nice”, considering they just made 300 pilots redundant.

I would use another word then nice, but I can see there are children here , so better not swear.
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 19:26
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PilotLZ

Norway don’t need Wizz, so the job losses of Wizz in Norway does not matter.

If you are happy to be treated like Wizz treat you, then that’s your prerogative.

There is a reason Scandinavia are the best and richest countries in the world, you will make more in Norway working in a factory then an SFO wirh Wizz.

If Wizz don’t want to respect Norwegian rules, they can return to Switzerland where they pay all their taxes.

The problem are the people working for Wizz, they are to afraid to be in a union and happy to pay nearly no taxes, but that’s why their countries will never reach the level of Scandinavia, because people only think of themselves
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 19:39
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Denys Hatton

Unbelievable - what a lovely place to work for- One FA promoted to cockpit and 300 were fired - you can be proud of that - spiral is going on downwards ....
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 19:57
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Of course they do this crap, make sure they got people hungry and working for as little as possible, so they always obey their dictatorship.

Kick Hungary out of the EU, and will help resolve some of these problems.
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 21:32
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Good on her! Likely to happen? Sadly no.
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 21:41
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Norwegian Prime Minister supports boycott of Wizz Air
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 21:54
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They would need to kick out Poland, Ireland, Malta, Lithuania, Romania, Bulgaria et al as well to erase all countries allowing dubious work practices... Wizz can be operated from any country with the theoretic Swiss headquarters, the Jersey-based holding and the EASA AOC announced recently. Guess what was the reason of obtaining that? Anything can come next after Wizz Bulgaria, Wizz Ukraine, Wizz UK, Wizz Abu Dhabi, Wizz Russia. It's just a question of a simple business decision.
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 23:45
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Yes but local crews would need work permit, if it was up to me they should kick out half of Europe from the EU, because they don’t meet the economical standards required to be a full EU member, East Europe have been used to prop us up with cheap labour wirh a workforce who will undercut everyone else, and who don’t understand the big picture of having a strong union.

I met some, and their attitude frankly stinks, one was upset because why Hungarian government don’t give them money, but happy to pay little to nothing in tax.

A corrupt and dirty company who care nothing of their employees.
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Old 17th Oct 2020, 09:27
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https://simpleflying.com/wizz-air-norway-unions/

The discussion is moot at the moment anyway, as there won't be any crews based in OSL under Norwegian law anyway - for now it will be just layovers and "out of base flying" for crews based in Poland and on polish contracts.
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Old 17th Oct 2020, 17:22
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https://www.arnnewscentre.ae/en/news...r-certificate/
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 03:03
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BarryMG

That "new" stance won't be anymore welcome in Norway either. Why would you want to have some shitty low paid crap company, come and destroy the Domestic market for NAS and SAS? With some of their "floating" crews.
Furthermore Wizz would NEVER want to pay to have OSL crew anyway, because they cost of living would make it very difficult compared to what Wizz would be looking to pay.

It's simple, people need to not fly the Domestic routes with Wizz, problem solved, and knowing the Norwegian mentality it would not surprise me if they could manage a fairly strong boycott of Wizz in Norway.
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Old 19th Oct 2020, 20:11
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High paid pilots wont make them any better than lower paid pilots, and because the salary in any airline is low, doesnt necessary mean that its a crap company, there are many other factors to count on here... Destroying the market? Well those routes have been overpaid for a while, good with a shake up, but the real price is most likely in the middle somwhere...We will see how this plays out, but its definately not good for Norwegian...
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Old 19th Oct 2020, 22:16
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I don't know what influence might the PM's choice of airline have over the ordinary people in Norway, but I'm a little bit sceptical that T&Cs for the crew bother anyone outside the industry enough to influence their choice of airline to travel on. I'm in no way related to Scandinavia and haven't spent any meaningful amount of time there to know much about the local mentality, so I might be wrong, but elsewhere in Europe that's simply not the case. People mostly care about cost, convenience and those days - also about cleanliness and adherence to hygiene and distancing protocols. Just as most train passengers don't give a damn about how much the driver earns or whether the train guards are union members, most airline passengers can't be asked to factor treatment of crews into their travel choices.
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 08:27
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Ordinarily PilotLZ, I would agree but Scandinavians are different. They realise that their benefits are funded by taxpayers (including themselves) and administered by the government for the benefit of all citizens. Because of the fairness that exists within their system (rich/poor broadly speaking get the same state benefits), they are more inclined to uphold and protect the basic principles of fair pay/fair taxation, job protection and more.
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 21:22
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SoundLesS

I'm sorry what? Are you arguing for lower paid jobs here? And who decides if a route is overly expensive?!
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 22:16
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A rumour has it that they are opening a new base in Italy (Bari). It will be announced tomorrow.
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Old 22nd Oct 2020, 03:05
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Luke258

No, I'm saying that lower paid pilots aren't necessarily worse pilots than higher paid ones, money is not equal skill. And every person can decide for themselves if a route is expensive, and I think that those routes have been kept slightly higher for a while now...
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Old 22nd Oct 2020, 08:08
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Well in my opinion your Statement doesn't make sense. Either you are affected by those as you say high prices, or you are a Wizz employee. In either way you might be able to explain why destructive prices are good for the market when, through them, one market Player gets bankrupt. And also you might be able to tell me since when it is legal to operate like this. At least where I am from it is not legal to offer products constantly for a price under your own costs just to destroy competitors.
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Old 22nd Oct 2020, 09:13
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As far as I know it's called free market, so if it was illegal I presume the government in Norway would put a stop for it already. And to raise prices in order to save another airline is counter intuitive, why would wizz help Norwegian? One of their competitors? Its sad for everyone if jobs are being lost but this is not what we talk about here...
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Old 22nd Oct 2020, 20:59
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Rumour of New bases announced for Trondheim and Bari
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