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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 11:00
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WIZZAIR HA-LWI, coming from Luton, London, to Chisinau, Moldova, due to fog, was forced to divert to Otopeni, Bucharest.

But the attitude of the crew is a bit hard to understand.

You can listen to the conversation between the pilots and the air traffic controllers.

The crew of the plane clearly puts pressure on the air traffic controller, for that minimum 300 meters they need.

Please note that RVR (Runway Visual Range) at Chisinau International Airport is automatically measured by the transmissometers and the air traffic controller can not influence the measurements in any way.

The crew was also dissatisfied with why the controller had given him 275 meters and that he did better not say that change. This is a call to violate aviation law, that is intolerable.

As for the "Approach Ban", we would like to mention that it is an internal procedure of the company, and they differ from one company to another, and regardless of the procedure, the controller is obliged to transmit the information to crews as quickly as possible.

We find this behavior very unprofessional and dangerous for civil aviation.
www .sound cloud. com/runway08/wizzair-100d-rvr300-app-ban (deleted the spaces in the link)

7 star safety rating...
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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 12:32
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Any info on "open days" dates/venues in the spring?
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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 15:26
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Originally Posted by brushcounsel View Post
www .sound cloud. com/runway08/wizzair-100d-rvr300-app-ban (deleted the spaces in the link)

7 star safety rating...
Before the usual Eastern European and WZZ bashing starts just have a look, or rather listen to the captain's voice. Not your typical Eastern European accent i would say. It is the Captain's unprofessional attitude towards ATC and doing the job safely, nothing to do with the airline's culture IMHO.
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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 17:48
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This Captain needs some retraining.
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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 18:53
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Originally Posted by booze View Post
Before the usual Eastern European and WZZ bashing starts just have a look, or rather listen to the captain's voice. Not your typical Eastern European accent i would say. It is the Captain's unprofessional attitude towards ATC and doing the job safely, nothing to do with the airline's culture IMHO.
Some like to try, and even try a little bit more when they reach the DA too, just in case they might see the lights below. This is not based on bashing, but rather based on facts. Very unprofessional.
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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 18:55
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It is the Captain's unprofessional attitude towards ATC and doing the job safely, nothing to do with the airline's culture IMHO.
The airline's safety culture involves everybody - from CEO to frontline operators. It doesn't stop with what's written in the manuals.

Safety culture maturity levels
Level 1 - Pathological/emerging (“Who cares as long as we're not caught?‟)
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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 20:16
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Some offtopic question guys - is the audio in real life really that bad quality what the pilots hear? I could hardly understand most of the conversation in the provided audio track...
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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 22:28
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Originally Posted by a350pilots View Post
This Captain needs some retraining.
More being demoted.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 11:36
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Does anyone know how many leave days for holidays Wizzair offer?
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 11:44
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It depends on the base. But usually it’s 25 days per year and only weekdays need to be covered. So it will be 5 weeks per year.
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 07:32
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Anyone knows how long until you get a reply from wzz after assessment? Its been 8 days already... NTR with experience
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 12:52
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Depends on type of contract and country.

Agency contract - 24 days/year
Local contract - days for holiday change for each country, so I suggest you check labour law in a country which interests you
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 14:56
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Originally Posted by Banana Joe View Post
More being demoted.
Wizz are so desperate for Captains, no chance of either demotion or retraining, maybe a small chat at maximum and a possible management position offered.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 12:27
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Originally Posted by FlyingStone View Post
Good for you, but there are worse companies on this planet to work for than Wizz Air...
it's an European airline not banana air.... so it is normal to have some standards and basic commun sence expectations.. if you relate to the worst than.. yes there will always be a company that is worst than other. However.. human nature is to strive for better...or at least this is how I see things.

Originally Posted by Skipping Classes View Post
Well... The bottom line of all this discussion, is that Wizzair is the company where even the employees (pilots that is) think it is OK to bend the contracts, avoid taxes, disrespect the labour laws and just fire anybody who would like to form a trade union. Apparently everybody who joins Wizz Air knows it from the start.

It is funny that types like Soundless have proven my point exactly with their flaming posts in this thread.

Sad, that those pilots who stayed in Wizz Air long enough or never worked for another airline, truly start to believe that what's going on in the company is the norm and are somehow convinced that they are - I quote - "living as a king".

And basically yes - in Wizz Air this is the name of the game, and its up to each and every individual to decide whether you want to be a part of it.
That is a Spot on argument!

Originally Posted by 2unlimited View Post
Circus Wizz never ends.

I am looking forward to see who are going to fly all their aircraft soon. Floating Cabin Crew in Luton, because they are to cheap to pay people proper salary.
Constant tax avoidance / evasion for their crews.
Enjoy your crew meals on your 13 hour duty days, never mind the hotel accommodation.
I know of contractors taking over 800 Euros a day, and they name their own schedule, and works when they want.
And all of these contractors are just waiting for better jobs, thats why they dont join Wizz.

The rapid expansion is a massive issue for Wizz, you have low experienced Captains flying with low experienced FO's.

Need I say anything more?
) you preatty much said it all.

Originally Posted by Skipping Classes View Post
You know what's funny? You guys are getting all worked up and personal because you don't like to hear the facts.

I don't see anybody here protesting that whatever was said about Wizz Air was incorrect; you just tell us that saying these facts publically is somehow saying 'shit' about Wizzair and is not appropriate.

Please if you want to tell me that anything I said about Wizzair is factually incorrect - do that, I would be glad to discuss it.

Otherwise you are just angry that somebody thinks that shit smells bad, while you love it.
Nobody can say you are factually incorrect, because you are NOT. I don't agree with insults as they benefit no one, but I agree with everything elese you posted so far on this topic and I trully think people should open their eyes and read carefully what you say as nothing and I repeat norhing you said so far was incorrect.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 21:00
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Spot on - I agree ! At the end of the day, everybody who accepts to be part of these low cost companies is him-/herself willing to be "cheap", its an ethical question in my opinion, if you wanna to go on the "cheap" way . I did it myself, learnt, escaped, not anymore "cheap".
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Old 7th Apr 2019, 12:40
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Can anyone give me an estimate on how much a captain would make, after tax, on a floating base contract?
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Old 7th Apr 2019, 22:20
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Originally Posted by runsi View Post
Can anyone give me an estimate on how much a captain would make, after tax, on a floating base contract?
Probably around 7500 euros. With no expenses except food, since hotac is paid for.
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Old 7th Apr 2019, 22:34
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Originally Posted by booze View Post
Before the usual Eastern European and WZZ bashing starts just have a look, or rather listen to the captain's voice. Not your typical Eastern European accent i would say. It is the Captain's unprofessional attitude towards ATC and doing the job safely, nothing to do with the airline's culture IMHO.
He is Dutch 👍
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Old 8th Apr 2019, 00:35
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Originally Posted by SoundLesS View Post
Probably around 7500 euros. With no expenses except food, since hotac is paid for.
Minus the taxes to be paid in the country where you are resident. Or take the risk, just pay close to nothing in switzerland and skip a beat every time someone knocks on your door...
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Old 8th Apr 2019, 07:20
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Originally Posted by dirk85 View Post


Minus the taxes to be paid in the country where you are resident. Or take the risk, just pay close to nothing in switzerland and skip a beat every time someone knocks on your door...
As with every European airline be it SAIL Ryanair etc with dodgy contracts you are responsible, yes. Nothing new...
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