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Old 30th Sep 2018, 03:03
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Originally Posted by dirk85 View Post
I left the company quite some time ago but all the guys I am still in contact with are telling me that with the new salary scheme the salary did go up at least 10%, and I concur after seeing their payslips and comparing them with my old ones.
I agree, even guys in Gdansk got a raise (and they made the most noise when the system was announced).
But, going back to original question - it's not so easy for cadets, you could wait half a year to get a call from wizz, they are not really short of candidates, the bottleneck is the training.
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Old 4th Oct 2018, 19:26
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Originally Posted by FlexToga View Post
Average salary for a captain ( new ) is 5500-6500euros net per month, dont expect more....
LTN salary for a new Captain, after tax:

5800€ (5200£) (50 block hours, no deduction)
6000€ (5400£) (60 block hours, no deduction)
7600€ (6900$) (85 block hours, no deduction)
7200€ (6500£) (85 block hours, bond deduction)
8300€ (7400£) (100 block hours, bond deduction)

So average for 75h:
6800€ (6000£) with bond
7200€ (6400£) without bond

To compare with EasyJet UK:
According the EasyJet career website, they offer 120000£/year (basic salary, sector pay and bonus).
Corresponds to 6500£/month after tax.

The salary at Wizz Air depends a lot on how much you fly. I assume it's more constant at EasyJet.
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Old 5th Oct 2018, 06:14
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Originally Posted by Bus Driver Man View Post
LTN salary for a new Captain, after tax:

5800€ (5200£) (50 block hours, no deduction)
6000€ (5400£) (60 block hours, no deduction)
7600€ (6900$) (85 block hours, no deduction)
7200€ (6500£) (85 block hours, bond deduction)
8300€ (7400£) (100 block hours, bond deduction)

So average for 75h:
6800€ (6000£) with bond
7200€ (6400£) without bond

To compare with EasyJet UK:
According the EasyJet career website, they offer 120000£/year (basic salary, sector pay and bonus).
Corresponds to 6500£/month after tax.

The salary at Wizz Air depends a lot on how much you fly. I assume it's more constant at EasyJet.
Good info here, what about in comparison with Ryanair?
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Old 5th Oct 2018, 17:57
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Originally Posted by Bus Driver Man View Post
LTN salary for a new Captain, after tax:

5800€ (5200£) (50 block hours, no deduction)
6000€ (5400£) (60 block hours, no deduction)
7600€ (6900$) (85 block hours, no deduction)
7200€ (6500£) (85 block hours, bond deduction)
8300€ (7400£) (100 block hours, bond deduction)

So average for 75h:
6800€ (6000£) with bond
7200€ (6400£) without bond

To compare with EasyJet UK:
According the EasyJet career website, they offer 120000£/year (basic salary, sector pay and bonus).
Corresponds to 6500£/month after tax.

The salary at Wizz Air depends a lot on how much you fly. I assume it's more constant at EasyJet.
If I may ask, where did you got those numbers ?
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120 000£ a year in Uk, if you pay your tax normally is not 6500£ but currently 6121£ with the mandatory 1% retirement (or you all need to tell me your secret, because it seems I pay too much tax ...don't hesitate to send a PM 😉&#128521 , so 6500£ afger tax on average a year would be around 130K£+ each £ above 100 000 is taxed at 60% in Uk ...

I m not saying your numbers are not true, I would be happy if wizzair offer this good package to pilots.

Thanks
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Old 7th Oct 2018, 11:29
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Anybody having an idea do they giving loss of license insurance ?
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Old 7th Oct 2018, 11:59
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Originally Posted by Punchy2609 View Post
Anybody having an idea do they giving loss of license insurance ?
Yes they do. Coverage up to 82000€
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Old 7th Oct 2018, 12:14
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Thanks, not really serious, but at least something
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Old 7th Oct 2018, 18:26
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Originally Posted by flyhigh788 View Post
Yes they do. Coverage up to 82000€
82000 euros but with a lot of exclusions... I know some stories about pilots that didn’t get a penny after theyve lost their medicals/life.... so I suggest to be careful and get yourself a proper insurance.
On the top of that for this “tremendous” 82k you have to pay extra 20 euros every month which is deducted from your net salary. If you dont pay- you are “secured” up to 40k euros (this one is free of charge).
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Old 8th Oct 2018, 09:14
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Well.... This fact unfortunately getting the value of this contract even more down. Taking into account that pay wise these guys paying less than Ryanair or Norwegian.... otherwise would be very good company to consider.
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 06:42
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Originally Posted by Flocks View Post
If I may ask, where did you got those numbers ?
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120 000£ a year in Uk, if you pay your tax normally is not 6500£ but currently 6121£ with the mandatory 1% retirement (or you all need to tell me your secret, because it seems I pay too much tax ...don't hesitate to send a PM 😉&#128521 , so 6500£ afger tax on average a year would be around 130K£+ each £ above 100 000 is taxed at 60% in Uk ...

I m not saying your numbers are not true, I would be happy if wizzair offer this good package to pilots.

Thanks
The Wizz Air numbers are from payslips. Except for rounding up or down, they are accurate.

I entered the EasyJet salary on www.uktaxcalculators.co.uk
Tax code 1287L to benefit the extra allowance for pilots.
When I check my salary in this tax calculator, I get more or less the same result.

Monthly pension contribution at Wizz Air is 100.80£ for Captains. Some of the salary figures I provided were after pension contribution, but some of them didn't have a pension contribution. Average salary should still be more or less correct. But to me, pension contributions are still part of your salary. You will only receive it much later.

No idea what the pension contributions are at EasyJet.
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 06:58
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7% in easyjet UK.
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 18:41
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Originally Posted by Joe le Taxi View Post
So from those figures, the "bond" charge is taken from net salary, not gross? Seems pretty wasteful.

If so, better to opt for the up front payment.

Any prospect of a share save scheme?
After 3 yers you get 7500€ back as a fix amount. So no point to pay up front...
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 19:17
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Originally Posted by samca View Post


I would wait for Wizzair... now you can manage times, there is no pilots...
Be careful, now there are enough pilots in Wizz for the current fleet (even slightly more as I heard) and the growth will be significantly smaller for next year so recruitment slowed down as well.
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 06:49
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Could you explain how their Bond system work please?
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 19:57
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Is anyone going to assessment next week or can offer any insight about the day?
Is a taxi the best way to get from downtown Hotel to the Wizz training Centre?
thanks
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 21:24
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Originally Posted by Victor75018 View Post
Could you explain how their Bond system work please?
Simple, Wizz Air bonds you and everyone leaves without paying.
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Old 12th Oct 2018, 10:14
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If they're not black listed, they certainly deserve to be.
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Old 12th Oct 2018, 10:45
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Jumping from not paying or keeping your side of the bargain clearly shows an unprofessional person who shouldn’t be trusted. When you loose that integrity, wait until the down turn and when you are desperate you will know the effects.

Be professional and decent......
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Old 12th Oct 2018, 14:24
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Originally Posted by pedrothepilot View Post
Is this really the case?...As every company is needs a verified 5 year back ground check, I can't see any company cooperating for someone who owes them a big chunk of change....
The five year background check (certainly in the UK) only requires that someone vouch for the relevant period. It doesn’t have to be anyone in a position of authority at Wizz Air at all. This caters for situations where companies have ceased to operate or stops you being held hostage by someone with a grudge, quite rightly too.

I’m not really passing any comment just stating the facts, there have been several people leave without paying the bond at Wizz who are now in employment at legacy airlines. None of the ones I knew who did were pursued by Wizz Air in any way, most probably because in any employment tribunal A) they always find in favour of the employee and B) would throw light on their shady employment practices. FWIW I actually paid the remainder of mine, I was one of very, very few.
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Old 14th Oct 2018, 18:31
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Career advice for free, You should ask for a letter before you work your last day, Legally no one is allowed to provide a bad reference, equally they are no required to provide a good reference, but the company MUST provide a letter stating your dates of employment at that company and the Job you had i.e. Captain or FO . That is all they are required to provide. Most companies now DO NOT provide references because if they a big enough they have a legal dept which prevents them providing anything but the law requirement. This is so they cannot be held liable by saying.......jonjoguy was a good pilot.....then at the next air line you stuff something up, they can be held liable. There is a lot of law suits and precedent you can look up for this.
As you know you will need that verification of employment for the next 5 years at least, just in case the company goes belly up as in Monarch and Primera, if you do not get that letter you have no proof and have to go the personal route for the reference, but most companies will want the CP, DFO , TRE, ref.

If you have the dates employed letter then there is no problem at all. You can ask for this even if you are not applying anywhere else and leave the exit date open.
This has saved me at least 3 times whereas I got the job because I had the exact 5 years covered either at interview or on day 1 of employment.

People like West Atlantic refuse to provide ref because they are very bad airline and practice many illegal activities and like to hold their employees to ransom, If HR refuse to provide it then write one your self and take it to your line manager and get them to print it on company paper and sign it.
Keep all these letters in your own file for future interviews if necessary.

You should also get a copy of your training file or at least your last OPC/LPC, you are much more attractive to a new employer if you present all this and a current criminal background check at interview
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