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Old 1st Apr 2018, 18:06
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Wizz air is going to make the news very easy during the summer... Copy paste last years RYR crisis and change the name to Wizz......
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Old 1st Apr 2018, 20:24
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Maybe they should start to recognize unions? Wzz UK will have to...
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Old 1st Apr 2018, 21:26
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There has been update at pilotjobnetwork about their recruitment process "Online application, then First step is a video interview. 7 questions, 30 seconds before each question to prepare your answer before camera records you. Then 2. Tech test, group exercise 3. Interviews 4. Sim evaluation". What do you guys think, how it may differ from the previous assesment system? Cheers!
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Old 1st Apr 2018, 21:33
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Originally Posted by Cak View Post
Most of the guys from training department are totaly incompetent to be professional pilots and not to mention instructors ( there are some really good exceptions, of course). Crew knowlegde is very poor generaly.
I have to strongly disagree with your comment regarding the training, when I did my linetraining my thoughts were that the guys are very experienced, know a lot and teach in a nice way. Cabin crew aswell, during the pre-flight briefs I never had the impression that people had poor knowledge. I think that flying with an experienced instructor is more rule than exception. Regarding your other comments, I fully agree...
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Old 1st Apr 2018, 23:28
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Pilot_GDN. I am not sure which companies you are thinking of that are better than easyJet, but do share here as we all want to go there. I can only think of national carriers like BA and for some people Emirates, but even that is open to question. My point is that there is no magic 'Air Utopia' out there, but if you have found one let us all into the secret.

I do think that schweizer2 is going to be proven correct about Wizz being unable to fulfil their plans this summer. The problem they face is self-defeating - they are short of crews so they have to over-utilise the ones they have and make endless roster changes and minimum rest days with no thought for commuters (who are a huge part of the pilot fraternity there). That makes the pilots hate the Company, the situation being exacerbated by poor pay, and therefore more leave to the likes of easyJet and that makes the lot of those remaining all the more difficult. And so the situation gets worse instead of better. To an extent the demise of Air Berlin and Monarch has rescued Wizz in the short term as it has generated enough unemployed and very capable Airbus pilots to steady the sinking ship. That has not happened in the 737 world where there is an acute shortage of experienced and capable pilots - hence RYR's difficulties. Interesting times.
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Old 1st Apr 2018, 23:42
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Originally Posted by Pilot_GDN View Post
And let me guess... You were a cadet from some “top gun” british flight school ?
Because as I look at it everything in wizz is bad besides training department... as a proof I can only tell that majority of people from wizz that decide to leave have no problem getting the job of their preference, and quite often at company’s better than EasyJet
I was not a cadet but quite experienced captain and instructor with more then 10 years on type
I cannot judge about Easy as I haven’t flown there

Busting altitudes because guys don’t differentiate TA and TL, flying for months constantly close to MAX LDG WGT on one of the small, shitty airports with PCN restriction of about 55T, putting lower flaps instead of higher during app, going around from circling in the opposite direction, after RTO senior giving PA to calm the PAX without CANCEL ALERT........ just some of the exapmles
I wouldn’t call it a good training
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Old 2nd Apr 2018, 00:08
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aaaaaaaaaaaand don't forget the pay
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Old 2nd Apr 2018, 01:07
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It’s all about the money/roster/leave and secondary benefits like pensions, loss of income/license insurance, medical insurance. And having these things in the contract does help so the company can’t just do what they want when they so require.

And that’s the entire issue, WZZ is unfortunately inadequate on all fronts as a long term employer. In a crisis market with a surplus of pilots it’s not an issue as people will take opportunities to gain experience on a medium jet. But with the market we are in now this is only going to end in disaster eventually.

I have worked there for close to a 4 year period and have flown with serious operators out of GDN. Don’t recognize the poor training statements by CAK.
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Old 2nd Apr 2018, 10:32
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Approx 3 months ago we all filled an employee survey. No results were still published by the management...

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Old 3rd Apr 2018, 13:43
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So, who's currently in Wizz, and do you care to share your personal experience/thoughts in terms of living in your bases?
What is life like? Which bases would you rather prefer? How far will the salary get you?


Anyone having an assessment scheduled in the upcoming months? Anyone already did it and care to share?
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Old 3rd Apr 2018, 15:41
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stay away from wizz. The company is very organized and they follow SOP, high quality of training etc BUT the way they are treating other people is shocking.
The hungarians really have their heads stuck up their a$$. Thats the best way I can describe their attitude towards foreigners and I am very sure many agree with me.
If you are not hungarian or German you are worth nothing to them

I am happy they gave me my command but they are the worst airline I have ever worked for. I only lasted 6 months there. Really inhumane company.
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Old 5th Apr 2018, 12:47
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Originally Posted by Lellie View Post
So, who's currently in Wizz, and do you care to share your personal experience/thoughts in terms of living in your bases?
What is life like? Which bases would you rather prefer? How far will the salary get you?


Anyone having an assessment scheduled in the upcoming months? Anyone already did it and care to share?
In terms of living...well it depends. Its all very subjective. Do you like any easter european cities? Can you fancy living there? Ive been in 3 of them and its a step back in terms of many things, in the end you get used to it, but I guess not forever.

Life is mostly good in many bases, with parties and people going out, it depends a lot on commuters/small base with small amount of ac. The smaller the base the more family like the crew is.

One of the few good things about CEE is that you have relatively low amount of expenses, so Wizz can get away with their relatively low salary. If you check your account at the end of the month, which is what matters, then you will actually have a quite good amount left, on the contrary to many other european outfits.(Beginner FOs are excluded)

I wouldnt say stay away, but think twice. At the moments its pilots market, and Wizz doesnt seem to get that, so they made a new payment scheme with close to no payrise. In some bases a pay cut.
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Old 5th Apr 2018, 16:55
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I also absolutely can not confirm that you should "stay away from Wizz".

The Training is pretty good, the conditions are definitely not as bad as some People write here and in my opinion it´s a good place to develop.

Regarding the new salary scheme we will see how it works the following months.
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Old 5th Apr 2018, 22:39
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Sorry if this is already buried somewhere in the long thread but does anyone have typical figures for the cost of comfortable local accommodation in the EEC that someone might secure on a commuting arrangement from the UK for the 6-1-6-8 arrangement? I'm assuming the cost of two pads and the relatively low salary might be the kicker.
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Old 5th Apr 2018, 23:04
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It depends on your definition of comfortable, but for a western european standard newish apartment, you are looking at anything between 400/600 eur.
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Old 7th Apr 2018, 08:22
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Have somebody doing assesment in nearest future can share their experience with this one - way video interview made by Indivizo? I am wondering what kind of the questions are they asking. Thanks in advance, Cheers!
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Old 7th Apr 2018, 08:39
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6-1-6-8? as long as I was at wizz, it was 6-2-6-7.
btw the new pay shame ehm scheme is out now.
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Old 7th Apr 2018, 09:00
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Originally Posted by Dash-Driver View Post
btw the new pay shame ehm scheme is out now.
Hehe, me like
The new pay „shame” system is a big disappointment, still way below market standards. The payslips that the company send to their pilots to compare the new/old salaries are full of mistakes and it is obvious that it was released in a huge hurry...
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Old 7th Apr 2018, 11:49
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Lots of us still havent received anything yet others have.. hoorah!
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Old 9th Apr 2018, 13:50
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Originally Posted by SoundLesS View Post
In terms of living...well it depends. Its all very subjective. Do you like any easter european cities? Can you fancy living there? Ive been in 3 of them and its a step back in terms of many things, in the end you get used to it, but I guess not forever.

Life is mostly good in many bases, with parties and people going out, it depends a lot on commuters/small base with small amount of ac. The smaller the base the more family like the crew is.

One of the few good things about CEE is that you have relatively low amount of expenses, so Wizz can get away with their relatively low salary. If you check your account at the end of the month, which is what matters, then you will actually have a quite good amount left, on the contrary to many other european outfits.(Beginner FOs are excluded)

I wouldnt say stay away, but think twice. At the moments its pilots market, and Wizz doesnt seem to get that, so they made a new payment scheme with close to no payrise. In some bases a pay cut.
I haven't lived in any CEE cities, but have visited on a few occasions, and although none beats home, I wouldn't mind living there if that was the only way to secure a job(which I can't at home).

Which did you live in, and how would you rate them?
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