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Old 24th Dec 2015, 19:09
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Could afford an iPhone though!
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Old 24th Dec 2015, 20:34
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B737900er

So Station Calling that would answer your question.
No it doesn't. You said it was SFO's - strangely enough Trainers are different to SFO's...

The only bit you have actually got right is the £1,070.

Get your facts right, or make it clear you are posting uninformed rubbish from
more source
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Since April 2015 there has been no increase to SFO salaries. The increase in 2016 equals 5.9% and is from April onwards. At best, and I really mean at best, an SFO might make £62k.

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Old 26th Dec 2015, 03:12
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Sorry if this has been covered but what are the criteria to become an SFO? Is it just time in the company? Or based on amount of hours you have?
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Old 26th Dec 2015, 05:09
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2000 hours (factorised) are required for SFO
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Old 26th Dec 2015, 05:43
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2000 hours (factorised) are required for SFO
Many thanks!
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Old 26th Dec 2015, 19:55
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Originally Posted by JM926
2000 hours (factorised) are required for SFO
And six months post final line check after line training, plus pass the upgrade board. People have been turned down.
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Old 28th Dec 2015, 12:51
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Mate of mine used to work for them on 757 fleet as an FO. After 3 years of temporary summer-only contracts he finally got a permanent contract and soon applied for SFO but was turned down because they needed 6 months in the company first, even though his sim reports said he was ready for command. So instead of Jet2 valuing his 5000+ hrs and trying to keep him, they didnt want to "set a precedent" so he just left and went to work somewhere else. Now I understand they are massively short of pilots on the 757 fleet!

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Old 28th Dec 2015, 13:34
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I'm pretty sure he is unfortunately not the only one. Pilots and Cabin crew simply aren't valued by the HQ. There is lots of talk about this lifestyle package but so far nothing has materialised and pilots are simply not hanging around to be treated like they do treat us at the moment and have done over the last few years. (with the number of leavers implementing this package is pretty much impossible so they created themselves a nice spiral)

According to the latest PLOG only 8% of the pilots have left and recruitment is pretty much finished. Personally I think most pilots still have to show their hand and with both VS and BA LH recruitment in full swing I would expect at least double or triple this figure of leavers. Leavers of which most will be captains or SFO's with a considerable amount of on type experience.
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Old 28th Dec 2015, 15:11
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Originally Posted by Jet2_320
According to the latest PLOG only 8% of the pilots have left and recruitment is pretty much finished.
If that's so, then it's funny how Zenon rung me up the other day to see if I was interested in a summer contract with Jet2, despite the fact that I worked for Jet2 via Zenon some summers ago, to then be taken on as an employee, all with Zenons knowledge.
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Old 28th Dec 2015, 19:32
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Zenon called me too and I have not flown for 7 years with an expired 737 rating!
Are they type rating people? And if so what is the deal?
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Old 31st Dec 2015, 13:51
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Just had my 3rd Zenon phone call of 2015! Looking for 757 Captains - apparently they are "doing very well for themselves" and lots of opportunity for permanent positions! 🙄😏
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Old 1st Jan 2016, 11:34
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I had the KB just before Christmas. It's a real shame as I've been applying for years with never even an invite to selection. They have just taken on one of my former students with his freshly printed licence though.

It seems with my 3000 hours and bizjet command, inc 1000 airline turboprop I'm deemed incapable

Ah well, off to work.

Happy New Year all!
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Old 1st Jan 2016, 15:10
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Simple economics.
They'll go for TR and experienced first
They'll go TR and no experience next.

Then anybody else I fancy.
Unfortunately the days of any other flying on types other than that the airline needs counting for anything are long gone, nobody cares.

When I was moving up my citation hrs got me a 146 interview, my 146 hrs got me a 757 slot and so on. I guess it's not like that today
 
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££££ and hair gel get you a 757/A320
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 16:51
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Piggydog - there must have been something that put them off, plenty of people with very similar experience to yours are joining and going through type rating courses now and over the next few months.

Have you sought feedback?
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 17:55
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What's the chances of getting MAN base as a new joiner? Or if there's a waiting list how long would one expect to wait before being offered their desired base?
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 20:25
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MAN is a big base for them... They try to put people where they want to go as that means you will be happy and stay in the company...... I hear a good percentage if not nearly all get there preferred base within a year.
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 22:14
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Until you get your command of course when you are promoted out of base "to prove your loyalty" (aka go to the bases that no DEC would touch with a barge pole and Jet2 need them and they know you're not going to turn down a command)
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 22:27
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If the numbers required are anything to go by, you'll get any base you want!

MAN cargo and remotes apron last night night looked like a Jet2 equivalent of Aircraft Boneyard!
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 23:05
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Just what do you mean by that remark?
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