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This is exactly something they're addressing at the moment with the upgrade process being modified and a support network being put in place to ensure those put forward for command have a decent chance of getting through. With 2500 hours you should be able to get in the process within a year or so with a couple of good sims.
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I'm not sure it's a matter of being desperate. I think it's just a chance to get as many 737 rated guys applying as it seems they'll only take NTR guys if they're desperate - it would seem they're not quite there yet.
I'm not sure how fruitful these roadshows will be. At EMA and EDI the only realistic chances of anyone moving to LS from other airlines based at these places are Ryanair, and they'll struggle to get anyone on a 5/4/5/4 pattern there to move to LS. I can't imagine anyone at Thomson jumping to LS. There's no point targeting EZY/TCX airbus drivers neither as they require conversion training and can't see what exactly would pull them to LS.
It just leaves out of work guys but the amount of out of work rated guys must be fairly minimal these days.
Maybe they'll bite the bullet and take on NTR folk. Here's hoping anyway! However I notice he ads do mention a fully bonded type rating if required, so who knows.
I'm not sure how fruitful these roadshows will be. At EMA and EDI the only realistic chances of anyone moving to LS from other airlines based at these places are Ryanair, and they'll struggle to get anyone on a 5/4/5/4 pattern there to move to LS. I can't imagine anyone at Thomson jumping to LS. There's no point targeting EZY/TCX airbus drivers neither as they require conversion training and can't see what exactly would pull them to LS.
It just leaves out of work guys but the amount of out of work rated guys must be fairly minimal these days.
Maybe they'll bite the bullet and take on NTR folk. Here's hoping anyway! However I notice he ads do mention a fully bonded type rating if required, so who knows.
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Not sure you are right with regards to FR pilots joining Jet2, there have been many over the last few years, and there is still a trickle of them moving over.
There are plenty of NTR pilots being recruited too, in both seats.
Not sure you are right with regards to FR pilots joining Jet2, there have been many over the last few years, and there is still a trickle of them moving over.
There are plenty of NTR pilots being recruited too, in both seats.
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That's interesting to hear. I'm thinking about going along to the EMA one during the week. Anyone got any information as to what it entails? I've already submitted an online application and it has been under consideration for some months now, so I'm happy to do anything necessary to speed up the application and get an answer either way.
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Just to clear things up for people...
They are recruiting TR and non TR for both seats, i have been to Leeds twice in the last few months for assessments etc. The whole process has been a bit long winded and the communication could be better but overall very friendly and straight forward. All of the pilots and recruiters I have met and spoken to have been very transparent and helpful. They are currently filling courses for Jan/Feb but will be running courses every 3 weeks i think until June so there is plenty of time to still interview and go through.
I will be joining in the new year and am very much looking forward to it. Hope that info is of help to some people. If anyone could enlighten me on the following it would be appreciated:
As an experienced joiner, circa 3000 tt, whats a realistic time to command?
If you join as an FO on the 75, could you spend 2-3 years in the RHS and then bid for a command on the 73? (this is what i would ideally like to do)
Apparently this 70% contract malarky should be for max 16 months... Is it likely to be shorter/longer?
All opinions welcome
I will be joining in the new year and am very much looking forward to it. Hope that info is of help to some people. If anyone could enlighten me on the following it would be appreciated:
As an experienced joiner, circa 3000 tt, whats a realistic time to command?
If you join as an FO on the 75, could you spend 2-3 years in the RHS and then bid for a command on the 73? (this is what i would ideally like to do)
Apparently this 70% contract malarky should be for max 16 months... Is it likely to be shorter/longer?
All opinions welcome
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As an experienced joiner, circa 3000 tt, whats a realistic time to command?
If you join as an FO on the 75, could you spend 2-3 years in the RHS and then bid for a command on the 73? (this is what i would ideally like to do)
Apparently this 70% contract malarky should be for max 16 months... Is it likely to be shorter/longer?
If you join as an FO on the 75, could you spend 2-3 years in the RHS and then bid for a command on the 73? (this is what i would ideally like to do)
Apparently this 70% contract malarky should be for max 16 months... Is it likely to be shorter/longer?
As said earlier the whole command process is being redesigned and it's a case of if/when you meet the requirements you apply. The big difference with the new system is that rather than being thrown in at the deep end with no help, you are now mentored and developed as you near command so success rates should be much higher. I would suggest that 757 experience is far more scarce than 737 time so that may be your trump card. That said when the 757 bases were moved they gave the crews the option to move or swap fleets to stay put.
70% is pot luck, some hardly any time others as you say 16 months.
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Hi guys,
Just wondered about something, I apologise if this has been mentioned before. If we're looking purely at pay (not looking at other benefits/lifestyle at all), comparing Jet2 to someone like BA, for an experienced guy with 2000+ hours who could reach a command within 2-3 years if you include flight pay a commander at Jet2 will be on around £90k - £100k? (With a basic salary of £83k) In order to get this at BA if my research is correct this would take about 10 - 15 years or longer..
Am I correct in my calculations? If so this seems a far better option in regards to pay for someone in their 30's with experience, rather than going to BA to start at the bottom of a huge seniority list?
Just wondered about something, I apologise if this has been mentioned before. If we're looking purely at pay (not looking at other benefits/lifestyle at all), comparing Jet2 to someone like BA, for an experienced guy with 2000+ hours who could reach a command within 2-3 years if you include flight pay a commander at Jet2 will be on around £90k - £100k? (With a basic salary of £83k) In order to get this at BA if my research is correct this would take about 10 - 15 years or longer..
Am I correct in my calculations? If so this seems a far better option in regards to pay for someone in their 30's with experience, rather than going to BA to start at the bottom of a huge seniority list?
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I can't answer in terms of Jet2, but at BA commands on the A320 at Gatwick are going very junior, currently about 4-5 years. However, it looks like that is going to drop further as there haven't even been enough bids to fill all the available Gatwick P1 slots this year. Heathrow is currently running at about 7-8 years for an A320 command. For long haul you're looking at at least double that, but probably even more. My last captain (I'm on the A320 at LHR) had been at BA for 18 years and expects to be able to get a 747 command by next year, 787 the year after that or four more years wait for the 777.
All that aside, at BA your take home pay isn't massively determined by which seat you're in. With allowances, a maximum pension contribution and a few other deductions I'm averaging a take home pay of £4,200 a month at the moment. That's as a first year FO. Many guys I know who are on long haul are making nearer £5,000 per month.
It's all a case of how your pay is structured rather than the headline basic salary.
All that aside, at BA your take home pay isn't massively determined by which seat you're in. With allowances, a maximum pension contribution and a few other deductions I'm averaging a take home pay of £4,200 a month at the moment. That's as a first year FO. Many guys I know who are on long haul are making nearer £5,000 per month.
It's all a case of how your pay is structured rather than the headline basic salary.
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Many guys I know who are on long haul are making nearer £5,000 per month.
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Most have simply resigned, with more in the pipeline to leave as BA, TCX and Thomson clear them out...