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Old 29th Jul 2015, 17:23
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Jet2 Autumn 2014

165 crew required = 82 crews divided by between say 5 and 6 crews per aircraft = a bloody lot of aircraft to recruit for let alone train as mentioned. If its true then the flow has to be reversed
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Old 29th Jul 2015, 21:55
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the current crop of remaining FOs who couldnt get into BA ?
Quite an insult really. Some FO's actually don't want to go to BA and are happy carving out a different path - which may or may not mean staying put for a while...
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Old 29th Jul 2015, 22:03
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Originally Posted by Jet2_320
I would only recommend Jet2 if you are non rated and are planning to use it as a stepping stone to get yourself moving up the career ladder again. If you are rated I wouldn't recommended it.
Happily I believe the grand total of nobody will pay your advice the slightest bit of attention.
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Old 30th Jul 2015, 10:38
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@de fumo in flammam - when did you apply?
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I believe they will bin an applicant if they fail to meet the companies expectations with regards the psychometric evaluation. With around 220 questions, the structure will certainly indicate any undesirable qualities a applicant may have.

I actually think these psychometric test could have far reaching implications on a pilots career. Airlines talk. So do licensing authorities. Information is so easily shared now, and information is power.

I would expect Jet2 are looking for a very specific type of employee, judging by the anount of effort they have put into devising the online assesments.

Clearly they cant say they want a 30- 35 year old 2000 hour captain, single with no debts or hidden agendas. But the tests will allow them to reduce the pile of CVs without rejection based on race, age or religion.
Remember the equal opportunities part of the application. I mean who are jet2 to ask me wether im bi sexual asian . Its HR none sense .
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Old 30th Jul 2015, 16:32
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I mean who are jet2 to ask me wether im bi sexual asian . Its HR none sense .
Am I the only one who just had an image flash up, of Alan Partridge watching Bangkok Chick Boys?

Seriously though, airlines and authorities simply don't have tumecto share the psych data and wouldn't e stupid enough to believe it could indicate a madman anyway. My guess is Andreas Lubitz could easily outwitted the 220 questions... It's just simply a way for HR to whittle down the applicants to a more manageable level.
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Old 30th Jul 2015, 18:17
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Does grate when people imply young and single without kids equates to somehow being of a more stable state of mind.I'd argue if our German friend had kids of his own he may not have found it an acceptable thing to do !
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Im not implying that single are more stable. I was simply stating, that if Jet2 had a preference, it would be for 30 somethings, single and no hidden agendas, i.e. huge debt or possible .gambling habit They cannot state this in their adverts, equal opportunities etc. However, its unlikely they will recruit anyone simply to be politically correct. By using a comprehensive selection process, they can legally whittle out the undesirables, i.e. wrong race, age, or even body mass. They of course are not unique in allegedly using a selection "process" allowing circumvention of so called equal opportunities for all.

Singles are preferred by LoCos as they have less responsibilities and therefore can tolerate the ups and downs of the seasonal business that is say Jet2. I don't remember getting a discount during the winter from my private school, nor any mortgage reduction. The salaries are simply too low for todays pilots to enjoy the lifestyles and securities offered 20-30 years ago. When I was a kid, Pilots were always thought of as dashing types in their E Types, with their Surrey detached mansions.

The reality of the modern day Jet2 pilot, apparently, is a 10 year old Daihatsu, driving to going to the local OFSTED criticised school, with a rusting Aldi shopping trolly in their front law. Oh what aspirations some have lol.
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Old 31st Jul 2015, 06:40
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Hence why every airline on the planet is now struggling to fill a position, less and less people were prepared to invest so much time and effort to fill.

BA, Emirates, Ryanair etc are all in desperate need of experienced crews and are now finally prepared to start paying a more apt going rate. The boot folks, is now firmly on the other foot, and we should keep it firmly on the neck of those who try and diminish our t&cs purely to fund the grotesque greed of the few at the top.
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The reality of the modern day Jet2 pilot, apparently, is a 10 year old Daihatsu, driving to going to the local OFSTED criticised school, with a rusting Aldi shopping trolly in their front law. Oh what aspirations some have lol.

What a lot of sh1te. LOL 😩
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It would be interesting to put board members through the psychological tests...... I suspect most airlines would find issues with those results !
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I was simply stating, that if Jet2 had a preference, it would be for 30 somethings, single and no hidden agendas
Everyone on my course when I joined was in their 40's/50's, married and had a hidden agenda of working in the north of the UK for an airline that didn't threaten them with/make them redundant every 6 months.
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 20:24
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Anyway, what I wouldn't do to drive my first car again ! A 1988 white Daihatsu Charade GTti, 1L 3cyl Turbo injected.

Not 100% off topic....
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Hello,

Seriously contemplating Jet2 for family reasons and would appreciate it if somebody could help me out with a few questions in return for beer! Experienced FO, 3000+ heavy, but no Boeing.

I have read the entire thread but would be grateful if people could help me specifically with the following.

1. Understand summers are "crazy busy", winters quiet. In complete confidence, would somebody be kind enough to send me a sample roster of each? I would just like to get a handle on start/end/duration/sectors in a typical FDP, amount of time sitting around on the ground etc.. Winter: Lots of home/airport standby or just pure days off? Roughly how many? Blocks? Requests etc: How many, if any, weekends can a Junior/Mid/Senior guy expect to get off a month? Days off: Fixed after roster publication I assume?

2. Coming home purely for improvement in lifestyle with a requirement to be based c.60 min radius LBA and home most nights. In truth, even 70% would work for me. Given this, is there anybody else you would be strongly considering over Jet2? P.s I am not paying for any rating out of principle!

3. Heard rumours of Airbus orders. Any update on this?

Anything else relevant would be appreciated.

Cheers.
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Old 5th Aug 2015, 12:17
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Understand summers are "crazy busy", winters quiet
Busy depends what you are used to, but yes, they can be hectic. There is no roster pattern (fixed or otherwise), and you can expect plenty of changes to the published versions. Days off don't change once published, but the duties either side can (and do) change.

Typically 2 sector days.

How busy you'll be is base dependant. If you are at a base with lots of trainers, I don't imagine you'll be getting much flying at the moment - or next year with the volume of recruitment planned.

amount of time sitting around on the ground etc
If you mean on turnarounds, little if any. An hour max, usually 30 - 40 min turnarounds. Unless you are on airport standby, once you're home, you're done.

Winters are quiet, expect plenty of home standby, and probably airport standby if MAN or LBA based.

Heard rumours of Airbus orders. Any update on this?
No update, They're still looking at different options, but there is an upgrade program on the cards for the winter to modernise some of the existing fleet.
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Old 5th Aug 2015, 13:11
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Hi guys,

Have had a browse through this thread, but just wanted to confirm a couple of things for Jet2 non rated applicants. Currently a 747 FO in Asia looking for a potential route home. So just had 3 quick questions.. Do the company cover the cost of the type rating? From reading on here it seems they do but no pay during training (approx 4 months?) just wanted to confirm this.. And also is the pilot jobs network salary scale fairly accurate? So starting wage would be around £50k?

Any info would be hugely appreciated.
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Hi guys,

Have had a browse through this thread, but just wanted to confirm a couple of things for Jet2 non rated applicants. Currently a 747 FO in Asia looking for a potential route home. So just had 3 quick questions.. Do the company cover the cost of the type rating? From reading on here it seems they do but no pay during training (approx 4 months?) just wanted to confirm this.. And also is the pilot jobs network salary scale fairly accurate? So starting wage would be around £50k?

Any info would be hugely appreciated.
  • Type Rating fully covered including hotel/breakfast/mileage
  • 3 year reducing bond starts after final line check (used to be £28k but I think it may be less now they have their own training facility)
  • You get 50% (of 100%) basic salary whilst training and sector/duty on top whilst line training. Usually takes 3-6 months depending on time of year. They gave some courses a financial bonus because the training went on too long. I heard their cutoff is 13 weeks now then they give you full basic salary anyway (but not 100% certain on that). Full salary (or 70% etc) after FLC
  • F/O Wage starts around £50kish (or 70% of that if that's your contract). 70% seems to last for anything from a few months to 15 months
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Old 5th Aug 2015, 20:53
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Recruitment road shows now planned for Dubai and Abu Dhabi in the hope that some of those looking to get home will be tempted. Things must be getting tight for such drastic action to be taken.
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Are they not getting enough applicants?
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Recruitment road shows now planned for Dubai and Abu Dhabi in the hope that some of those looking to get home will be tempted. Things must be getting tight for such drastic action to be taken.
At least they could take a sweep through their CV backlog, send off the PFOs to those that have been hanging out for MONTHS (i.e. NTR but still experienced) and go ahead with their things. I cannot blaime J2 (or any other operation) for looking at TR/Experienced folks but I think everyone deserve an answer within a reasonable time. Last time I applied the PFO took in excess of 12 months to arrive!

Are they not getting enough applicants?
See above

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