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Old 21st Mar 2016, 14:48
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The 7k in year 1 is taken before tax in the same way pension contributions are so you get some tax relief on it. It also won't make any difference to your gross P60 figure, just your net take home.
If you do a full year on PPY then expect around £55k gross. That's what I did. I am now full time and it's significantly higher. I only did one year on PPY.
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Old 21st Mar 2016, 15:35
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Toast30, so did Thomson cancel your PPY50 then? We were told that ours would remain in status but full time could be offered as and when they need it. Our year 1 is full time leaving just 4 years to do at 81%.
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Old 21st Mar 2016, 15:59
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Just to aid anyone's "fag packet calcs" if you are thinking of applying (whilst we're on the topic)

My year one PPY gross was 60k
year two full time gross 73k
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Old 21st Mar 2016, 16:02
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Sorry perhaps I was unclear. First year I completed a full year on PPY. My second year was full time because I took a winter detachment. Those that didn't take the detachment in winter 15/16 were offered winter work anyway and subsequently full time. So some people never actually did any time on PPY, some like me did 1 year. I suspect those figures quoted earlier are full time figures.
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Old 21st Mar 2016, 17:06
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Originally Posted by busybee123
... Also unlike other airlines no fear factor of making a mistake, being delayed etc.. We have a very just culture and are treated like professionals.
The professional comment is debatable, all depends on your bench mark
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 00:52
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Hello all,
I have applied to Thomson in hope of a shot at my first jet job. Been flying since 2004 when I obtained my PPL, decided to have a go at commercial via modular route in 2006 which took me till 2011 when I achieved my MCC. Been a instructor , ferry pilot , corporate pilot on MEP to a British baronet, took the attitude fly anything, anywhere, anytime and this year completed my B737 TR. I am keeping current by volunteering as pilot monitoring for LST and LPC in the sim. I have 2500tt about 70hrs in level d 737-8 sim am I in with a chance or dreaming ............ Thanks for replies and advice in advance.
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Old 23rd Mar 2016, 00:25
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Just by way of a personal observation, without wishing to enter into the debate around the rights or wrongs of current TOM recruitment terms other than to say that they have proved to be rather more flexible than what recent joiners have signed up too....I have never regretted for one moment joining the Company more than 30 years ago. The aircraft are well maintained with very few deferred defects, the routes are varied and the pay is good and reliable. Add into that the other benefits such as loss of licence, share scheme, private healthcare, death in service benefit, Thomson holiday discount scheme etc, and thanks to the constant efforts of the BALPA Company Council the overall package is hard to beat in the UK. Many pilots who have only recently joined are now flying long haul on the B787, so a varied operating lifestyle is available. Add to that quality training and excellent colleagues it is not hard to see why in recent years, without exception, all the recent joiners I have come into contact with either in a training environment or on the line have no regrets about joining. Yes the roster can be fairly punishing during the peak months, but no worse, I suspect, than at other comparable operators. The Company Council are engaged in a continuous dialogue over innumerable issues with the Company, and some outcomes such as pension contribution rates are not ideal, but overall they achieve a great deal in mitigating the more zealous ambitions of the management.

No I am not a management pilot, just someone who has had a long and varied career with this Company and who would encourage anyone thinking of joining to look beyond initial financial considerations and play the "long game."
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Old 23rd Mar 2016, 18:50
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Like BA, Thomson offer both shortish/medium haul and long haul options. It is always nice to have that choice.


Questions: what is the seat-lock time for those who change from 737 to 757/767 or 787? Also, when will we start seeing the MAX arrive?
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Old 23rd Mar 2016, 22:56
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Type freeze only applies to new pilots joining the Company and is for 3 years from the date of joining the Thomson seniority list. Other than that no freezes, and there have been many cases of pilots "flip flopping" from one type to another and back again to satisfy seasonal imbalances. The MAX is scheduled to begin arriving in 2018 I believe, gradually replacing the 757 and then NG fleets.
There is also the (rather tortuous) introduction of "One Aviation" within the group airlines across Europe. This has suffered delays, but already pilots from the UK fly services from Scandinavia regularly on long haul routes, and there are winter detachments to Sunwing in Canada flying mainly down to the Caribbean and Mexico on the 737. This has been a source of continued employment year round for the recent PPY joiners.
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 11:15
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Advice on Applying

Hello,
Just looking for some advice on whether or not you feel I should get an application in.

I currently work for a well known Q400 operator in the UK, I'm sitting at about 700 hours total with around 400 on type. I know the falls short of the 1000 total time, and 500 on a turboprop/jet, but By October, which i believe it says the positions will be for,I will certainly meet this requirement.

Do you think applying now is a quick way to get myself to the bottom of the pile with a 12 months freeze on applying again, or do you think its worth a shot if I explain in a covering letter etc?

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Old 25th Mar 2016, 23:37
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The vacancies have been significantly oversubscribed in the past with the result that criteria have been stringently applied. What, however, have you got to lose by applying other than the time required to complete the application? Changes to the numbers required has also led to the application list being revisited at a later stage, by which time you would have met the requirements.
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 09:44
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BShute

Don't ask - don't get, so get your application into the system. Thomson need a lot of pilots and there are other options out there for experienced pilots so finding the right numbers is not going to be so easy. You may be very inexperienced but the training system is good.
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 23:47
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I would certainly echo the above. I done the same when applying to airlines in the past with borderline experience.

As for working with TOM, it's a great place to work. Fantastic all around, it has its niggles but show me a place which doesn't. The negatives are wildly discussed and mostly on the financial side with OCC/Type costs. That being said I surprisingly made more than I expected including year one, the figures discussed above are accurate for myself too. On paper it looks poor, that's the guranateed return, but in reality most have been surprised with the additionals. It's a great gig overall and I'm glad I made the switch.
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Old 30th Mar 2016, 00:16
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I've got my fingers crossed but not too hopeful. I've applied with a frozen ATPL and very low hours. Ground school was avg 85% so middling but managed a great MCC/JOC and passed CPL and IR first time. Not sure if they'll even give me a glance but sounds like a good outfit to work for.
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Old 3rd Apr 2016, 08:58
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I have an application in but just wondering what you guys think about the assessment days being spread over only four days? It's too late in my current employment to guarantee these days off, or even request them for that matter, so should I really just be accepting that although I may get called to interview I may not be able to make it and that's the end of it?
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Old 4th Apr 2016, 19:59
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Perhaps, Stable500 you'll find that you were sick a bit more than you normally are that month which, oddly enough allowed you to go to the assessment days...
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Old 13th Apr 2016, 09:45
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Has anyone been invited to the assessment day yet?
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Old 17th Apr 2016, 18:16
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Has anyone been invited to the assessment day yet?
I presume you haven't received the e-mail from HR that was sent out at the end of March by all accounts?
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Old 19th Apr 2016, 20:02
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What was the email regarding?
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Old 19th Apr 2016, 21:17
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Apparently it stated that Thomson were no longer accepting applications and that the roles were now closed.

The rest of the e-mail set out the timescales for the screening of applications, assessment days and sim sessions.

It seems the whole process will be completed by the end of May.
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