Thomson recruitment.

[double-oscar]

I think Yeoman must have got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning. Although things like that do happen its not always the way. With rostering anything can happen. Some people claim to use Carmen with some success, I personally believe it seems to work against you. In the summer at LGW and MAN you can expect a mixture of long and short haul. Almost all of the long haul trips are bullets or involve some positioning. LGW tends to get the majority of the longer trips available. BHX does not have any short-haul at the moment but the long haul trips are almost all bullets. BHX is full for Captains but seems a little short of FOs. In the winter there is no short haul. No one is entirely sure how the Nordic program will operate this winter but it will probably be covered from all bases.
Hopefully all the industrial relations issues will be sorted by the time you join. I hope you enjoy your time here and have no regrets in joining.

[hec7or]

Rosters are crap.

That's why I left, spent too much time in taxis going nowhere on the M1, M6, M25 etc.

[EPRman]

yeoman,

Long haul was like that on the 767. You must have known once the novelty of the 787 had worn off it would be the same old. Should've done the sensible thing and stayed on the queen of the skies!

Pretty strong stuff too from someone in your position. Hope the rest of them feel the same. We might get somewhere then.

Regards.

[DooblerChina]

It’s not quite that bad. After 13 years I can count on one hand the number of times a hotel hasn’t been booked.

Rosters are crap? well yeah they are but what does anyone expect when flying a full long haul roster? week orlando’s twice a month?

Crap hotels? well a few but most are OK. I personally hated the holiday hotels in Dominican and Jamaica but some are excellent, LIR/MRU springs to mind, I quite like the CUN hotel as well.

i have to to say I don’t see the appeal of long haul anymore, back on short haul and life’s great again... I’m currently sitting in the beer garden in the middle of 5 days off looking for ward to my weekend in the back garden, that’s the life for me!!

[Jack the rabbit]

Hi Yeoman

I read this thread from the start and noticed a couple of years back you posted different sentiments. Has working there changed in the last couple of years (Thom to Tui) or have you just got wracked off with it? Genuine question in case it reads as sarky (it’s not meant if it does). What you describe does sound quite full on for one trip.

Thanks.

[Cuillin Hills]

Originally Posted by yeoman

You can also expect some genuinely aggrieved pax who’ve booked and paid for Premium but been bumped and are now spread out all over Economy.

I had to smile at this comment by Yeoman - this is exactly what Thomson did to us a few years ago when travelling to Cancun.

Due to a configuration change they tried to tell us we were now in Economy and not sitting next to each other for 11 hours. Prolonged “discussion” at check-in eventually gave us a row of four economy seats for the two of us despite paying for the Premium legroom seats at the front.

Not a good start to the holiday - haven’t been back to Thomson/Tui.

[yeoman]

Originally Posted by Jack the rabbit

Hi Yeoman

I read this thread from the start and noticed a couple of years back you posted different sentiments. Has working there changed in the last couple of years (Thom to Tui) or have you just got wracked off with it? Genuine question in case it reads as sarky (it’s not meant if it does). What you describe does sound quite full on for one trip.

Thanks.

No problem.

It’s a lot of the former and a fair bit of the latter. I don’t know what duties the Happy Squad are flying but my earlier post stems from my increasing frustration at having to sort loads of stuff that needs sorting because others have failed to do it. As a pilot I expect to manage wrinkles down route, it’s part of my job but I’m now managing routine stuff that should be being done and it’s starting to distract me from my real role, keeping it safe.

As for the eternal SH / LH debate, I’m happy enough on the Plastic Fantastic as it’s a nice aircraft to fly and suits a lazy git like me. It’s all the other crap that irks me, crap that could be got rid of if we invested some time, effort and cash in doing it properly rather than relentlessly looking for cost savings in one area that inevitably end up costing somewhere else. In short, I’m tired of picking up the bits. I also think SH is even worse, I’ve had a few health issues and been clearly told that the SH roster was not doing me any favours; apart from anything else, the sheer ergonomic stupidity of the 737 was ruining me!

i also like summer leave and for me, the 787 offers the opportunity for me to get away with my school age kids. I’ll put up with a lot to get that but it also begs the question why as a “family friendly” employer I had to make such a decision in the first place.

As for the oblique reference to “my position”, I’m giving that up too. I’m tired of people sniping who don’t have the pods to stick their heads above the parapet. The nomination process starts in a few days and I look forward to reading a load of manifestos from people who can clearly do a better job of it. I learnt to deal with disappointment a long time ago.....

As for the original question, yep, there would be someone in my seat before it was even cold if I left and yep, there are some good parts to the job, it’s just we seem to expend so much effort on making life difficult for no real gain when actually a little bit of effort would have so much positive effect.

Back in my box I go.

[yeoman]

But before I go, Doobler, as a MAN bod with a load of other stuff on my roster I’ve never been to LIR or MRU. I’ve got more nights in the Divi than any man alive

[EPRman]

yeoman,

My ‘oblique reference’ to your position was a courtesy to you. I could have been less discreet.

You do sometimes come across as a little touchy at times.

Regards.

[yeoman]

Originally Posted by EPRman

yeoman,

My ‘oblique reference’ to your position was a courtesy to you. I could have been less discreet.

You do sometimes come across as a little touchy at times.

Regards.

A courtesy I sincerely appreciate. We are at cross purposes, I was attempting to continue to be as veiled / discrete as you were kind enough to be.

And I’m not touchy at times, I’m touchy all the bloody time!

[olster]

I completely agree with Yeoman. I spent countless times chasing up hotel rooms / flights / taxis that were not booked in my tenure with Thomson / Tui or whatever they’re called this week. In 2 years with my Northern orientated airline, never had a problem. Go figure and be careful what you wish for.

[qwassaf]

Is anyone here invited for the assessment on the 19th of june at East midlands? no airline experience job in specific.

[22052014]

Assessment

Originally Posted by qwassaf

Is anyone here invited for the assessment on the 19th of june at East midlands? no airline experience job in specific.

hey mate,

are you rated ? Were you in the holding pool ?

[qwassaf]

Not rated ... finished flight school a month ago. managed to get the invite for the less than 500hr job opening.

[cloudbash]

Tech exam

Does anyone know what the tech exam consists of?

Thanks

[BoeingBoy]

Yeoman and all the other TUI posters........

Thank you so much for making me realise that retirement is even more wonderful than I thought!

[beamer]

BB......I concur. Golf on thursday, day at the cricket yesterday and in the garden all day today when not walking the hound......

[beamer]

BB.....I concur. Golf on thursday, day at the cricket yesterday and in the garden all day today when not walking the hound....lovely !

[2078OWHC]

Afternoon folks,

Just after a bit of advice really! Long story short I'll be going onto the 787 based out of BHX starting in August. I'm currently flying the Q400, doing 900 hours a year on a very busy 5 days on, two days off roster on an aircraft which tries to kill you at least three times a day the moment you take your eyes off it! Essentially jumping from an aircraft that weighs just under thirty tonnes up to an aircraft which weighs just under 300 tonnes, is slightly daunting but I'm looking forward to the challenge. I was wondering how others found the transition onto the 787. Was it a huge tech jump? How is it to fly? Etc...I don't think my usual routine of waking up and praying to the Bombardier Gods is going to work for the 787 as it does for the Dash!

In terms of rosters I'm very used to being worked to the ragged edge, doing 900 hours on full five day weeks with just two days and sometimes even less days off inbetween! Nonetheless I fully expect the LH rosters to be very busy aswell, but even so I'm hoping it'll make a nice change from the drumming I'm currently getting!

Cheers

[Flocks]

Hb

If you work for the airline I think ... And if you really fly 900hr a year ... You decided yourself to remove the 750hr max a year of your schedule agreement.

Saying that, I have not doubt the 787 will be much more easy than the Q400.
Good luck.