Monarch in turbulence

[Groundloop]

So who are the biggest losers the taxpayer yet again. Out of whose purse the 110,000 pax will need to be repatriated

Are you sure of this? Surely this is what the ATOL bond scheme with the CAA is for? I doubt the taxpayer is paying anything - just Goverment ministers twisting the facts trying to big thmeselves up as saviours of the "stranded".

[HZ123]

It sure comes back to the taxpayers in the end, doesn't it always!

[rog747]

totally wrong

the monarch repatriation is not paid out of your pockets nor any UK tax payer

the costs are all met from the air travel reserve fund (a Bond) set up after the Clarksons Court line collapse in 1974 (it was called TOSG then)

that collapse was big almost 50000 repatriated in 1974 - this is more than twice that

any air ticket and ATOL booking is costed with an amount into that when tour operators and airlines place their bond with the CAA

[HZ123]

Well its taxpayers if they choose to travel that pay the surcharge a sum that will now increase, and the CAA is funded in the main by the taxpayer is it not?

[Fire and brimstone]

No - it is not.

[All-The-Nines]

Wrong. Unlike many CAA's, the UK CAA is required to meet it's costs from those that it regulates (e.g. in the fees that they charge) - they don't receive money from the government.

[highfive]

Originally Posted by michaelknight

Virgin have setup a dedicated page for ZB drivers, best of luck to all.

https://careers.virgin-atlantic.com/...iypgteomqdnpnq

Curious that VA should open their doors to Monarch Pilots when many other, much higher qualified pilots are either waiting an interview or have heard nothing (B787/ A330 rated guys )

Lets face it, the motivated guys left after the last hedge fund infusion. The remaining crew were either new wannabes or too old to care.

[renort]

Or Loyal. Maybe a trait VS are looking for.

[Chronus]

Originally Posted by HZ123

Well its taxpayers if they choose to travel that pay the surcharge a sum that will now increase, and the CAA is funded in the main by the taxpayer is it not?

I`d suggest a quick look see :


https://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33...resolution.pdf

Can you see anywhere there where the money is to come from.

[Black Pudding]

Dear pprune

Please forgive me if this is not allowed and delete if you feel the need, just wanted to let our comrades at Monarch know.

Qatar Airways Pilot Recruitment Open Day Gatwick & Manchester 9th and 11th October.

Gatwick 9th October, The Sofitel Airport Hotel, North Terminal, Gatwick Airport, N Terminal Approach, Horley, Crawley RH6 0PH, UK

Two sessions per day: 10:00 am & 13:00 pm

Manchester 11th October, The Radisson Blu Hotel, Chicago Ave, Manchester M90 3RA, UK

Two sessions per day: 10:00 am & 13:00 pm

Good luck with your destiny wherever that may take you

[rog747]

the air travel reserve fund set up by and used by the CAA to repatriate pax from collapsed tour operators and airlines and usually they have lodged a £££ bond - used to be TOSG tour operator study group - the travel trust
now ATOL and called the ATT Fund

https://www.caa.co.uk/ATOL-protectio...-Travel-Trust/


this is NOT funded by the UK tax payer - the ATT fund has a huge surplus

where do you get this nonsense from that its your hard earned money being spent - its not

it comes from this reserve fund and that in turn is funded by the airlines/holiday companies lodging a bond with the CAA which is money from sales of their tickets and holidays - a small % of each projected sale - its part of your protection when you buy an ATOL bonded tour or ticket

[Chronus]

Whilst Monarch customers who booked holiday packages are ATOL protected those who booked flights only are not. Reason, Monarch withdrew from flight-only protection last year.

Who is to pay for their repatriation.

[bafanguy]

I haven't read all 30+ pages of this thread to see if someone else has offered these links but I'll put them here for the Monarch folks.

I sure feel bad about what has happened having been in similar circumstance once myself. Best wishes to all of you affected:



https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/9400.html

AviationJobs.Me Flight Crew: Virgin Atlantic Recruitment Fast Track Path for Monarch Pilots

[Count of Monte Bisto]

highfive - not sure there are many 'much higher qualified pilots are either waiting an interview' than the Monarch guys. Many of them have flown the A300 and A330 for years as both Captains and FOs. They also have countless sectors on Airbuses to their name - a very useful quality for long haul guys when take-offs and landings are in short supply. They come from a culture very similar to Virgin and seem to be a perfect fit. If I was a Virgin manager and was running a recruitment drive, I would start with a host of unemployed ex-Monarch pilots. Win-win for everyone - how much better does it get?

[TitanCadetScheme]

Titan Airways opportunities.

At risk of censure, I am going to post the following:

Titan Airways are recruiting now for the following for our STN base.

Airbus Captains, LTC's and TRE's. Immediate start dates available;
Boeing 737 & 757 Captains and FO's - start dates late 2017/early 2018;
Airbus FO's - start dates later in 2017;
Cabin Crew - start dates early 2018;
Engineers;
Flight Ops General Manager (non flying/admin), and;
Safety and Compliance Risk Manager.

We will be in LGW at Holiday Inn, Horley on Tuesday 17th October and at STN Holiday Inn Express on Thursday 19th October for open days.

Please visit www.titan-airways.co.uk and select the careers tab. Upload your details and we will be in touch.

Also, check out our Facebook page - Titan Airways Careers.

Good luck to you all - we already look forward to seeing several former Monarch employees next week at selection.

[kaikohe76]

Count of Monte Bisto

You are absolutely right. The Monarch Airline I knew & I'm sure it's no different now, was one of highly professional & most loyal Aircrew & other Staff. Qualities that any Airline about to hire Staff themselves, would be glad to have on board.

[favete linguis]

Virgin First Officer – Monarch Pilot Managed Path

https://careers.virgin-atlantic.com/...iypgteomqdnpnq

[slowjet]

RENORT : "Loyal" ! Absolute baloney. No place in modern commercial aviation. Ask pilots from British Eagle, Court Line, Channel, Laker, Air Europe, Da, Moretons, BU(CI)A, BIA Air, Caledonian, BUA...........aaaaaagh ! Crikey, and I have hardly started ! Oh, and loyal to who when "your" company is taken over or merged with something else painted on the side ? Switch "loyalties". Yeah, you probably would !

[Crandons]

TUI Airways (formerly Thomson) recruitment now open.

Pilot Recruitment - TUI

[FAStoat]

I seem to remember when that great bloke Don Richardson was the Boss,everyone was loyal,and most in the Industry would have swopped either seat for the same seat with Monarch.As an earlier poster put it,it was the best job around,but that seems to have been a while ago!What a real shame such a nice Outfit was shafted by those in Suisse!Reminds me of when SwissAir went bust and stuffed their Creditors,they became White Tails and promptly restarted on lower Ts&Cs,calling themselves SWISS:-So What I Am Still SWISS!What a Bugger of an Industry you lot now have to endure,having Bean Counters that ruin your lives,instead of Highly Experienced Ex Pilots,who know exactly how to run and keep an Airline HAPPY!