Monarch in turbulence
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For example our Flight Ops Technical group only work office hours and refuse to answer the phone during lunchtimes. It doesn't matter that you are stuck down route needing some abnormal performance figures due to an unserviceability.
Don't you guys have the toughbook? Us Orange chaps are using them more and more, e.g. Mel items are selected and gives us instant performance figures for any unserviceability. How can you call for figures? Do they fax or email them to someone so you have a hard copy before you depart? After 2pm of course!!
Just imagine a 1960s flightdeck where paper is king. The airline wasted £2m on an efb based upon mobile phone technology for updating. Despite being told by numerous external sources that it would never work, the major project manager persevered, often changing items of the hardware himself without any technical qualifications. We are now left with some very expensive ipad sized chart holders we afix the paper charts to.
We still get a paper loadsheet and consult a paper manual for performance figures. If you need any abnormal performance you make a call on the usually absent or dead aircraft mobile phone, hoping that it is during office hours and somebody will answer the phone.
Just imagine a 1960s flightdeck where paper is king. The airline wasted £2m on an efb based upon mobile phone technology for updating. Despite being told by numerous external sources that it would never work, the major project manager persevered, often changing items of the hardware himself without any technical qualifications. We are now left with some very expensive ipad sized chart holders we afix the paper charts to.
We still get a paper loadsheet and consult a paper manual for performance figures. If you need any abnormal performance you make a call on the usually absent or dead aircraft mobile phone, hoping that it is during office hours and somebody will answer the phone.
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Gorter, as indicated above middle management are now probably accountable for failures within their depts. Previously they were not, EFB project being the prime example. I truly hope your mate is safe in their position.
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In the meantime please give all the unfortunate employees some empathy as the situation they face
I've had more airline failures and the like over the years, when this happens you tend to look at airline life slightly differently e.g. job security means a lot so i'll work as hard as I can mostly free of charge to keep it going.
Sadly I have to admit also that you may be correct because a x % pay reduction xxx pilots is a lotta money whereas a x % pay cut for a few Office Staff = not a lot.
I therefore refer to my other thoughts that in any other job in terms of pay a F/O would be a Middle Manager, a Captain a Director, and a TRE the owner!
I sincerely hope that MON pull through and that T+C are restored for all Staff or as MON prob hope get some cheaper ones in at the bottom of scale
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Just for your info guys, the ad was live yesterday for at least 6 hours then got pulled down again or the application system is down. At the same time no email updates for those still in the hold for interviews. Something brewing, though not sure what and when (not that I'm interested anymore).
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The pilots in the Guardian article have been made promises that were not kept.
However, for Monarch's pension fund to be paying out £70k/year pensions from age 55 is completely unaffordable for an airline today.
However, for Monarch's pension fund to be paying out £70k/year pensions from age 55 is completely unaffordable for an airline today.
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Don't forget this is real money, that the individual pilot has paid in over his / her working life, out of earned income. It is a savings scheme, and if it was left on deposit in a bank/building society and not returned in full, there would be an investigation and public uproar.
It is not like the public sector pension paid out of tax payers contributions (ponzi scheme), but earnt money put away and unable to draw on until reaching the plan/retirement age.
It is not like the public sector pension paid out of tax payers contributions (ponzi scheme), but earnt money put away and unable to draw on until reaching the plan/retirement age.
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I hear through the grapevine that there is a four year right of return to those who left under the voluntary program, with no loss of seniority.
If that's true, who in their right mind would consider Monarch anything other than another stepping stone right now. In four years time you might have all these pilots jumping back in, and above you.
I genuinely wish you all well in there, a lot of my friends are trying to make a go of it
If that's true, who in their right mind would consider Monarch anything other than another stepping stone right now. In four years time you might have all these pilots jumping back in, and above you.
I genuinely wish you all well in there, a lot of my friends are trying to make a go of it
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Love Joy, you are correct about the right to return and speaking as someone staying at Monarch it makes me sick.
You talk about Monarch being a "Steping stone", can I ask you to what? Other than BA what is better? I have looked and can't find anything!
You talk about Monarch being a "Steping stone", can I ask you to what? Other than BA what is better? I have looked and can't find anything!
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A fair number of FOs are off to BA. Cpts are off to EZY, I seriously doubt these guys will return. Yes they will retain seniority, but Cpts will return as FOs until a vacancy arises.
Quite possibly the few that are off to EK, will make a bucket load of cash and return.
Quite possibly the few that are off to EK, will make a bucket load of cash and return.
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Love Joy, you are correct about the right to return and speaking as someone staying at Monarch it makes me sick.
You talk about Monarch being a "Steping stone", can I ask you to what? Other than BA what is better? I have looked and can't find anything!
You talk about Monarch being a "Steping stone", can I ask you to what? Other than BA what is better? I have looked and can't find anything!
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The day a turnaround fund took over was the day that Monarch would either be sold in the next few years (or go bust).
So there will be further changes at Monarch, but if you're LHS LGW based, you're choice is only really EZY DEC.
One thing we often forget is if you've worked somewhere 10 years+, moving companies is rarely what you want.
So there will be further changes at Monarch, but if you're LHS LGW based, you're choice is only really EZY DEC.
One thing we often forget is if you've worked somewhere 10 years+, moving companies is rarely what you want.