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Old 12th Dec 2017, 12:57
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I agree with the majority there Northern Monkey nice post.

Again though, FO's who go to BA I can see that as a step up. As a Captain who goes to BA, unless you return quickly to your previous employer, after 12 months or so in BA you can no longer claim to have 'acted as a Captain in the last 12 months' and go elsewhere as a Captain. You're now stuck as an FO, and therefore with BA you're in possibly the best place.

I still want to know which LoCo paid EllanVannin over £100k a year as a FO. Running the numbers with BA, I imagine a year one P60 to read in the region of 70k.

Fact is, I still don't know what to do. I've been offered nothing, but am in the pool for Easy DEC and BA. I'm 99% sure I'm going to Easy, but will always wonder what if, if I turn down BA.
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Old 12th Dec 2017, 14:27
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Hi VJW,

I worked for easyJet Switzerland on a "legacy" contract.

The money was very good, but the lifestyle was pretty brutal. Especially on late shifts. My wife and I used to pass like ships in the night on late shifts. It was my wife who pointed out that I might as well be away from home on a long haul trip, as I was basically absent anyway.
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 11:06
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Rumours from flyertalk forums.....

BA have bought 3 used 77W.....possibly from TAM

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...acker-126.html

Anyone know roughly how many crew BA have per 777? Would that equate to about 40-60 pilots?
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 11:43
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Well that rumour will at least provide a bit of light relief from the “mine is bigger than your’s ” rumour running elsewhere about BA getting more 380s..(apparently somebody in cabin crew working on a flight got tipped the wink about that deal by somebody v senior in Airbus.......Those sort of conversations happen all the time in Club apparently )

Anyhow where was I? 3 more 777Ws....really really like the rumour but it certainly wasn’t doing the rounds when I was at work earlier.
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 11:51
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Well there was something online awhile ago about the first bunch of Singapore Airlines A380s....Dr Peters (lease)....rumours were BA was looking at those rewired versions...

Ah here we go, it was on flightglobal
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...pore-a-443294/
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 12:31
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Would that equate to about 40-60 pilots?
Sorry - I wouldn't get your hopes up. These are direct replacements for the 3 oldest 'frames in the fleet which are due to leave over the next couple of years. There was mention of this plan in the Capital markets presentation a few weeks ago...
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 12:42
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Problem is whilst there might be a basis in fact ( usually starting with somebody running a feasibility) I think those rumours can become circular...the extra 380 rumour also has been running eslewhere, not just on pprune or flyertalk but there's still nothing concrete. On an in house forum it started last week but in that varient it was triggered by someone claiming he had heard a story from a senior cabin crew member who had served Mr XXX who had told him that , etc etc...

As for specifically the 777W rumour, all I can say is that in all honesty that one wasn't circulating even amongst the BA 777/77W community in the last 24 hours so forgive me if I for one take it with a pinch of salt, at least for now...

That said over the years rumours have always been that BA would take more 777Ws if they could get them, much more so than 380's.... so if you want to go with a rumour I'd go with the 77W one.

( Tin hat on, retires to safe distance........................, and add's rider that with it being BA anything could happen tomorrow..))

Edit to add: ETOPS that belatedly rings a bell and would make a bit more sense - unlike fleet expansion I doubt a one for one (or three for three swap) would raise much comment if/when that happened..
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 14:20
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I’ve heard TAM 77Ws to replace our old 200s, so no new extra frames, just replacements for the old originals.
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 15:13
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Is it possible they might pushback retirement of the 777-200's and some of the A319/320's that are due to go soon....even for 1-2yrs to source newer aircraft for the LGW expansion?
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 15:44
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Pay attention WonderBus I just said that two posts up
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 08:16
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Any comments on the webinar chat of Wednesday?
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 09:23
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I forgot to dial in- probably tells you all you need to know
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 09:58
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Probably only good news if you are rated.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 11:57
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Or you have zero experience and a £120k debt with a licence still hot off the printer
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 14:36
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we shall have to wait and see what mid January brings.....
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 14:47
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According to what they said I am estimating about 250 holdpoolers currently floating
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Old 27th Dec 2017, 08:57
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I think there will be quite a few LH aircraft rated in the pool also looking to join from ME and HK airlines.
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Old 28th Dec 2017, 07:09
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I can’t help but think BA are more interested in costs than gaining experienced pilots these days
That’s a “given” across the entire operation, not just pilot recruitment.....
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Old 31st Dec 2017, 09:18
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Originally Posted by CXKA
I think there will be quite a few LH aircraft rated in the pool also looking to join from ME and HK airlines.

That would be some serious pay cut and reduction in benefits!
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Old 31st Dec 2017, 09:25
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Would it really? What benefits are they losing? Last time I was in Dubai everything was astronomical. The cost of living out there must be huge and HK isn't any better.

In any case, there's more to life than money. Home vs Sandpit.....no competition whatsoever. Unless it's purely out of necessity, I can't imagine many people making the decision to stay or go based on money.
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