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Old 6th Dec 2017, 16:42
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I would suggest that any experienced pilot applying for a BA job in the future not bother until BA have signed and delivered to you a note that promises your employment ahead of any cadet. Otherwise you're wasting your time, effort and money on what is essentially a recruitment methodology that is as worse as RYRs (remember the outrage when they charged €250? well attending BA assessment days can cost some people £2,000 a pop if they're travelling from the Sandpit or Far East over 2 or 3 separate days).
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Old 6th Dec 2017, 19:13
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Wet leases may be an option being considered for the short term, but I do not believe for one moment that a final decision has actually been made yet. BA just do not work that fast.
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Old 6th Dec 2017, 19:36
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BA can’t plan for what remains of Wednesday. I think you underestimate the levels of ineptitude within middle management in BA.
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Old 6th Dec 2017, 20:10
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Must admit that post made me giggle as well... many a true word, or perhaps “if Carlsberg did posts describing the workings of BA”.....

Perhaps I should explain to our onlookers that IMHO a lot of this confusion as to what day of the week it is /which plan are we on today is of course not helped the increasing use of yammer as an official comms tool...
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Old 6th Dec 2017, 20:33
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Originally Posted by Smooth Airperator
I would suggest that any experienced pilot applying for a BA job in the future not bother until BA have signed and delivered to you a note that promises your employment ahead of any cadet. Otherwise you're wasting your time, effort and money on what is essentially a recruitment methodology that is as worse as RYRs (remember the outrage when they charged €250? well attending BA assessment days can cost some people £2,000 a pop if they're travelling from the Sandpit or Far East over 2 or 3 separate days).
A very sensible piece of advice. I still maintain that if I were in the hold pool and "expired" I'd want my expenses to be reimbursed.
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Old 6th Dec 2017, 20:40
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if I were in the hold pool and "expired" I'd want my expenses to be reimbursed.
I understand the sentiment but you are wildly optimistic.

This is the airline that has been trying very hard to terminate it’s policy of reimbursing employes for expenses incurred if they use an AME external to BA for their Class 1’s and it is also the operator which (unlike some others) won’t fork out to provide any form of respiratory protection for employees currently slipping in DEL.

Good luck claiming for expenses as a non employee.
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Old 6th Dec 2017, 21:04
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Oh yes I know there is zero chance of that happening but it certainly would be th decent thing to do. As someone alluded too earlier it costs a small fortune for some candidates
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Old 6th Dec 2017, 21:14
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Wet leases may be an option being considered for the short term, but I do not believe for one moment that a final decision has actually been made yet. BA just do not work that fast.
I would find wet-leases probably using aircraft from a pariah state of the Middle East particularly galling knowing that a long established UK airline was put out of business partly because senior IAG management wanted them gone.
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 07:14
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it certainly would be th decent thing to do.
Yes it would, but sadly you (and others) now have another insight into the “BA way”.

I’d be interested if any other airlines have been known to reimburse expenses in similar circumstances.
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 07:46
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I don’t have the emails to hand (given that I went through selection a while ago, and lots happened since then), but I remember it stating explicitly that BA wouldn’t reimburse any costs incurred by candidates attending waterside.
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 07:46
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My most recent interview where expenses were reimbursed was in 1990.

Since then, off the top of my head, Ive had at least 13 job interviews, and no-one - in any industry - has offered to pay for expenses. (The only exception was airlines in the sandpit, who provided an air ticket and hotac for the interview).

It's not just BA that won't pay, it's the modern world.
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 07:57
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I would find wet-leases probably using aircraft from a pariah state of the Middle East particularly galling...
Agreed. Especially as it looks like the whole thing was a “you scratch my back...” deal between BA, CAA and XXX airlines.
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 16:05
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Anyone else read the update email...Anyone had a phone call yet? Airbus...LHR...LGW.....other fleet?
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 17:21
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Could be short notice for ‘quality’ wet-leased available aircraft/crews - especially given ACMI recruitment and its short-term contract nature!

Would BA use Latvian/Lithuanian registered aircraft?!?
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 17:24
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Why should they not?
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 17:27
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Heard through a mate near the top of the pool- 4 x B747 offers gone out today. Whoopee
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 18:17
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Got the update email as well, limited number of offers to be made for starting date in march 2018. That's at least something positive! From no DEP in 2018, to a limited number. I do however wonder if its just for type rated guys and gals seeing as the update mentioned, 'for those eligble'.
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 19:36
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'For those eligible' - maybe read 'eligible for ZFT' for DEP Long Haul? Not too many rated 744 bods in the pool I would have thought.

Best of luck!

4 more 'more junior' bidders on the 744 than me, lovely! JSS implementation excepted....
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 20:28
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I expect BA to be fully surprised by the no’s to their 747 offers tomo
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 20:47
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I think it’s safe to say that everyone in the DEP holdpool will be able to complete a ZFT course; roughly speaking most of us probably have somewhere between 1000-1500 additional hours since we entered the pool. Those that entered via the shorthaul route without the Longhaul 2000 hour requirement probably all have it now.

I do wonder how many of those that that entered via the long haul route who are now Captains, are keen to drop 30-40% pay to sit at the bottom of BA seniority list- behind the recent FPP/white tail cadets.
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