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Hey guys
I know this might have been asked a few times before, but I still got no answer. Anyone on the 777 right now with a recent roster?? Did EASA bring a lot of changes? How many days off a month on average? What´s the minimum?
What´s the trend in quality of life?
Your input is highly appreciated, thanks!
I know this might have been asked a few times before, but I still got no answer. Anyone on the 777 right now with a recent roster?? Did EASA bring a lot of changes? How many days off a month on average? What´s the minimum?
What´s the trend in quality of life?
Your input is highly appreciated, thanks!
lhchris
It's all here, seek and ye shall find.......
Being lazy (and busy) I'm not going to type it all out again but look at the Triplines on post #2658 from 12th of Feb (page 133 of this thread on my browser), and the comments in the posts made by various others about Blindlines, etc.
My post contained March rosters so early days of EASA compliance for Long Haul, and as for a trend - well, don't expect any improvement. As an example the pilots on Reserve at the moment seem to be getting hammered with work (i.e. absolute minimum EASA days off between trips). Going to be an interesting summer.
It's all here, seek and ye shall find.......
Being lazy (and busy) I'm not going to type it all out again but look at the Triplines on post #2658 from 12th of Feb (page 133 of this thread on my browser), and the comments in the posts made by various others about Blindlines, etc.
My post contained March rosters so early days of EASA compliance for Long Haul, and as for a trend - well, don't expect any improvement. As an example the pilots on Reserve at the moment seem to be getting hammered with work (i.e. absolute minimum EASA days off between trips). Going to be an interesting summer.
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Wiggy
I hear new joiners on the A380 are being trained as Cruise only co-pilots for at least a year. Is this a new lower pay scale position.
I didn't think BA employed pilots not trained/qualified for t/o and landings down route.
I hear new joiners on the A380 are being trained as Cruise only co-pilots for at least a year. Is this a new lower pay scale position.
I didn't think BA employed pilots not trained/qualified for t/o and landings down route.
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I know nothing of the plans for DEPs onto the A380, but BA did certainly ask for volunteers to be cruise only pilots on the A380 a fair while back. These volunteers were fully trained as normal line pilots; they simply needed simulator details for their recency because they were not obtaining landings on the line. I do not know the reason why they would require cruise only pilots now though because we are only one hull below the maximum planned. Volunteers were paid their ordinary salaries as far as I am aware.
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6 months. Full FO pay. Full rating on licence. Reason is lack of line training capacity.
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Can't add much to what p0tt3r has written, other than add that there's certainly no talk on the line of cruise only pay scales or long term cruise only contracts.
FWIW BA tried a similar temporary cruise only system briefly on the 744 a long long while back when most of it's work was ultra Long Haul which meant it was difficult for co-pilots to retain recency. It ended up being difficult to administer and meant scheduling lost flexibility with no financial gain to the company. It didn't last very long.
Can't add much to what p0tt3r has written, other than add that there's certainly no talk on the line of cruise only pay scales or long term cruise only contracts.
FWIW BA tried a similar temporary cruise only system briefly on the 744 a long long while back when most of it's work was ultra Long Haul which meant it was difficult for co-pilots to retain recency. It ended up being difficult to administer and meant scheduling lost flexibility with no financial gain to the company. It didn't last very long.
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Early DEPs onto the 380 had their cruise stint cancelled as they found some line training capacity. The rough timescale is 6 months (to tie in with a recurrent sim), but it seems quite flexible.
As Wiggy alludes to, they'd rather have you line trained. Much more useful to the company/fleet.
Certainly no ulterior motive that I'm aware of.
As Wiggy alludes to, they'd rather have you line trained. Much more useful to the company/fleet.
Certainly no ulterior motive that I'm aware of.
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Not for a while, due to some IT upgrade of the recruitment system. I don't think I'm allowed to post the numbers, but they have made offers to a reasonably large number of folks already this year.
No idea as to the numbers required for next year, but BA isn't getting any new hulls in 2017.
No idea as to the numbers required for next year, but BA isn't getting any new hulls in 2017.
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Just a word of caution about spending a large sum of money on the 747 practice, a friend of mine had his sim changed to the 757 on the day and I have heard about this happening to several other people recently.
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What are the proportion of recent fleet type allocations for new hires? What percentage are getting A380, A320, 777, 787 and 744?
Also, when are you expecting the first A350 on property?
Also, when are you expecting the first A350 on property?
DEP A350, what are the chances of that happening ....
In service dates vary dependent on source, but AFAIK first A350 to BA isn't due until late '17 at very the earliest.
Traditionally and for practical reasons the early courses on a new type are populated by existing trainers from within BA (both P1 and P2).
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Does anyone know what the actual minimum hours are for Direct Entry is? The website previously stated 3000h and from memory a requirement for something like Boeing or Airbus time but that has since been removed and now just says the programme is for "experienced pilots". Any advice on minimums would be helpful.
Thanks
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Hey did mine on a Saturday and found out on the Wednesday late afternoon. I thinks it's a bit random. People go for weeks without hearing then get a yes. Not sure of the internal workings! Keeping my fingers crossed for you! :-)