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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 14:04
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So, still no hope for 737 rated guys. I'm sure that allows for ZFTT though?

Fingers crossed requirements change...
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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 14:26
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Yep, looks like Ive missed out this time around too, just hope they need more Bus Drivers
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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 19:31
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Ad states 747-400. Does this rule out 747-800 pilots?

What about 757 pilots for the 767 jobs? A one day differences course surely...
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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 21:54
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747-8 is not a type. The EASA licensed 747-8 crew have 747-400 ratings. It is merely a differences course to operate the 747-8.

AFAIK this is not the case in Korea as it is considered an individual type.
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 09:54
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One of the requirements is an EASA / JAR FCL licence.

Is this a problem for those in the middle east with locally issued licences and ratings, eg. GCAA in the UAE.
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 10:14
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I suppose you will have to take everything back to the UK before starting (if selected).
Not a big issue IMHO.
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 16:50
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With regards to ratings issued by another ICAO member state.
When i joined, it was a condition for me to get the rating endorsed on my JAR/EASA license, prior to joining.
Unfortunately there is no good reason for this, as they make you sit all the exams again...

It was a bit of an issue for me. First of all getting the time off to do it, when living in the ME, and then not to mention the cost involved in having to resit the exams in the UK, as well as paying for 4 hours in the sim with an examiner...


BTW seems like they have just opened up for A320 rated pilots again.
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 20:19
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Thanks for the heads up. Doesn't seem to be any link to click on as previously for the Boeing positions though. But I see A320 is now added to the list of types.

Perhaps I am not on the correct page?
Tried all my usual searches but to no avail, has it gone live yet?
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 20:29
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You're looking on the wrong page. You can't apply as a 320 rated person yet. Here's the page you're after.

http://www.britishairways.com/career...rchtext=Pilots
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 20:42
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Many thanks. I have added the page to my home screen, will wait for it to go live with A320 added.
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 20:55
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So what happened to the ad expired on the 18th for 320 dep's?
I applied for that but never had any feedback from BA.
Weird...
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 21:10
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The last few lines of this page though states:
The Direct Entry (DEP) recruitment programme - We are now accepting applications for the following;
A320 type rated and B747-400/767/777/787 type rated.


http://www.britishairways.com/career...rypilots.shtml


I know a number of rated people who appiied for the A320 job that had a cut off of last week and have heard nothing.
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 21:12
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I am one of them.
Applied in august, cutoff 5 days ago, no reply.
I think its BA policy to answer anyway so i am confident.
Sooner or later we'll get an answer.
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 21:39
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As I understand it BA are gagging for pilots, particularly A320 pilots, and there is likely to be alot of upset chief pilots at the Low Cost Airlines next year when their pilots start handing in their notices prior to the summer season. I think the 250 required pilots mentioned earlier may be an under-estimation. I believe the 320 programme for next year will be considerabley greater than this year. This means that as well as the need for new recruits due to this expansion there will be many new 320 commands freeing up LH right seat slots for SH copilots inturn opening up their seats for more new recruits. Those starting courses at the end of this year will be 1/3 to 1/2 way up the 320 seniority list by the end of next year. Not a bad place to be.

BA will be looking for 747 pilots for next year hence the new LH campaign. They will probably not require 767, 777 or 787 pilots to fly those types (although not yet finalised) but will use those with LH experience to fly the 747s. It is unlikely there will be enough quality 747 applicants to fill the required slots. Those going straight onto LH will be at the bottom of thier seniority list for quite a while but you will have the benefit of the LH lifestyle.

BA will not compromise on the quality of recruits in order to take people with the right type rating. So if enough suitable candidates cannot be found from the present campaigns expect to see A330/340 ratings added to the list, then 737 then finally NTRs. Its done in this way to avoid the recruitment dept being inundated with applications.

For those waiting for replies please remember there are only a couple of guys/girls in the pilot recruitment department. They run the ads, screen the applications, organise the recruitment days, answer emails and phone calls from people like me as well as fitting in a little time to go flying. They will answer all applications, just be patient.

Regards and good luck

P.S. the LH ad now includes the 757, not in the title but the body of the ad.

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Old 24th Sep 2014, 21:43
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A Colleague of mine informed me today that he has passed his assesment earlier on today and is waiting for a date for the Sim assessment. I wish him well.
His experience is BAe 146, Emb 190 and 6 months on the A320 we both started in April on our present contract, so I guess he has about 400 hrs A320.

Myself, I have 4000 hrs A320/321 with two previous companies, plus 350 ( more sectors but not as many hours) with present company.
See what happens
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 07:20
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Thanks to binsleepen,

as always valuable infos from you
Really surprised to hear that all applications are handled by only 2 employees.
Though BA recruitment dept was huge

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Old 25th Sep 2014, 07:25
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What has surprised me is that some people who jumped through all the hoops successfully in the very first recruitment drive this year haven't yet been offered courses but are sat in the dreaded holding pool!
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 07:28
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Eagles nest. I said guys and girls. The head of pilot recruitment is a guy. Don't offend him as he does post on here

They have a lot of pilots who help with the actual interviewing but day to day there is only a couple of them. The whole recruitment department is much larger for the whole airline but I am just talking about pilot recruitment.

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Old 25th Sep 2014, 09:29
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Thanks mate
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 16:11
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Ba

What surprises me is the high number of fATPLs already employed by BA, surely this would be a great opportunity to recruit loyal company bods from within who have a wealth of experience in various areas (cabin crew, ops, engineering etc) who know how the airline works?!
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