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Old 17th Mar 2020, 22:30
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They're also offering temporary secondments from the A380 to A350, killing two birds with one stone (dealing with the A380 surplus whilst filling the gaps of the poor A350 bound DEPs who had their contracts torn up..
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 19:01
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Originally Posted by BitMoreRightRudder
It’s not pretty.
But it is necessary
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 20:58
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Originally Posted by BitMoreRightRudder
LH SFOs doing A320 command courses have had their courses canned and are being directed RHS 320. It’s not pretty.
I’d be thankful to have a job.
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 21:46
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Were you two sent here by management? You sure sound like it.
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 22:05
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Originally Posted by BitMoreRightRudder
Were you two sent here by management? You sure sound like it.
Indeed. Some companies seem significantly more forthright and open than others and ultimately ours is very generous indeed.

IAG are not debt laden I thought?
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 22:51
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IAG are not debt laden I thought?
Nor would one imagine, they have any intention of being. IAG are utterly ruthless. Particularly with their Golden Goose, BA.
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 23:08
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Originally Posted by BitMoreRightRudder
Were you two sent here by management? You sure sound like it.
Well, I'm pretty sure Black Pudding is P. Nye, so kinda understandable...

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Old 19th Mar 2020, 15:15
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Epic....outed. Loving your work dude
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 15:41
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Looking at the posting history of said individual I’m not convinced.
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 16:11
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Was merely a joke, dear boy. The fruit was hanging too low to ignore; besides, I needed to make my yearly post!

We got to see how truly awful some people could be during last year's pay talks. I personally hope said individual never works in aviation again.

Cheers and good luck to all those affected by this stupid bug.

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Old 19th Mar 2020, 17:58
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Originally Posted by Buter
Was merely a joke, dear boy. The fruit was hanging too low to ignore; besides, I needed to make my yearly post!

We got to see how truly awful some people could be during last year's pay talks. I personally hope said individual never works in aviation again.

Cheers and good luck to all those affected by this stupid bug.

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I certainly hope I never share a flightdeck with him. That would be.....interesting. (Careful what you wish for in the current climate too I guess!)
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 19:21
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After the announcement today that the government will cover 80% of an employees wage with a limit of £2500.

Is there any possibility that would include the FO’s who have had their job offers withdrawn due to Covid-19? Or do you have to be employed by the company and have your salary paid by BA and then the government pay the 80% back to BA?

Sorry if it’s a silly question, can’t really find the details anywhere at this early stage.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 20:32
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Originally Posted by SissySkinner
After the announcement today that the government will cover 80% of an employees wage with a limit of £2500.

Is there any possibility that would include the FO’s who have had their job offers withdrawn due to Covid-19? Or do you have to be employed by the company and have your salary paid by BA and then the government pay the 80% back to BA?

Sorry if it’s a silly question, can’t really find the details anywhere at this early stage.
Word is IAG aren’t accepting any govt assistance including this wage thing so they look good to shareholders/the city. I was hoping the same as you but I think it’s wishful thinking. Asda, Lidl, Aldi and Maccies applications going in tomorrow, ezy fleet is grounded from Tuesday
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 20:36
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Originally Posted by SissySkinner
After the announcement today that the government will cover 80% of an employees wage with a limit of £2500.

Is there any possibility that would include the FO’s who have had their job offers withdrawn due to Covid-19? Or do you have to be employed by the company and have your salary paid by BA and then the government pay the 80% back to BA?

Sorry if it’s a silly question, can’t really find the details anywhere at this early stage.
I should really hope so. I wander if BA could honour our start dates and place us immediately on unpaid leave?

For those of us who have a family and mortgage to pay for and no prospect of returning to our previous employers this would be a lifesaver.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 21:31
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IAG don’t have a choice on the government wage guarantee, unless of course they just make thousands redundant. That would do far more damage to them than allowing employees to accept help offered by the government.

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Old 20th Mar 2020, 21:47
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IAG don’t have a choice on the government wage guarantee, unless of course they just make thousands redundant. That would do far more damage to them than allowing employees to accept help offered by the government.

Agreed. Unfortunately I don't think it will help us who have had our contracts rescinded already, from my understanding the company would have to request a grant from HMRC to cover up to 80% of the employees wages.

1. I can't imagine IAG wanting to do that.
2. They would need to reinstate our rescinded contracts and put us on the payroll. A big ask of a company that are willing to withdraw your job offer just weeks before your start date.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 21:50
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Originally Posted by SissySkinner
Agreed. Unfortunately I don't think it will help us who have had our contracts rescinded already, from my understanding the company would have to request a grant from HMRC to cover up to 80% of the employees wages.

1. I can't imagine IAG wanting to do that.
2. They would need to reinstate our rescinded contracts and put us on the payroll. A big ask of a company that are willing to withdraw your job offer just weeks before your start date.
worth asking though, isn’t it?
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 23:30
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Originally Posted by SissySkinner
1. I can't imagine IAG wanting to do that.

How much authority do IAG have over BACF? As they are actively looking at keeping everybody employed through this government scheme according to a letter from the union.
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Old 21st Mar 2020, 00:36
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To the kind person who offered to add me to the WhatsApp for withdrawn contract people... can’t sent over my number or the number of another chap in the same position, if you could delete the messages in your inbox so I can send them that’d be great. Thanks and apologies to everyone else for spamming the thread!
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Old 21st Mar 2020, 00:40
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Also re: not accepting govt help, I’m only going off a slide on a presentation I wasn’t meant to see outlining current operational proposals

‘BA not looking for government support to keep investor confidence high’

Make of that what you will and I tend to agree with those who have replied, but I’m just reporting what I’ve seen.
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