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Old 14th Feb 2020, 14:46
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Does anyone know if there is a plan, or likelihood, that BA will run the scheme for newly qualified pilots this year?
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Old 14th Feb 2020, 15:47
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Originally Posted by MaverickPrime
Does anyone know if there is a plan, or likelihood, that BA will run the scheme for newly qualified pilots this year?
This is purely my opinion, but I suspect the recruitment plans for this year are gong to reduce significantly once the world realises this Coronavirus is already out of control. So I think that is unlikely MaverickPrime. I am expecting a severe cut in capacity with 747s leaving earlier than currently scheduled.
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Old 14th Feb 2020, 22:17
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Originally Posted by MaverickPrime
Does anyone know if there is a plan, or likelihood, that BA will run the scheme for newly qualified pilots this year?
Imho, yes, and a fair few of them too.
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Old 14th Feb 2020, 22:55
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Originally Posted by GS-Alpha
I suspect the recruitment plans for this year are gong to reduce significantly once the world realises this Coronavirus is already out of control..
back in the real world where more people die of flu than the Coronavirus I would imagine recruitment won’t alter much if at all.
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Old 15th Feb 2020, 00:00
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back in the real world where more people CURRENTLY die of flu than the Coronavirus I would imagine recruitment won’t alter much if at all.
There, I fixed it for you.
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Old 15th Feb 2020, 06:41
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The only given in all this is that retirements will continue at a decent rate. On one hand that might mean recruitment continues throughout the year, OTOH if this gets really nasty and the flying plan takes a big hit that attrition might simply mean those pilots already in BA get to keep their jobs.

As someone who is old enough to have has seen up close how BA responded to the impact of Gulf War 1, GW 2, 9/11 etc I will offer one bit of advice:

If you really want to leave wherever you are currently , and you really want to join BA then now is really really is not the time to finesse a joining date....... grab the first start date that BA put on the table.
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Old 15th Feb 2020, 09:04
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Wiggy spot on as usual and has seen it all.
Take first offer and do not ruffle their feathers as they will just ring next person on the list.
’when can you start?’ 8.00am tomorrow is the response,not that hard.
FWIW BA May be shying away from MPL licences due lack of SA and teamwork skill set.
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Old 15th Feb 2020, 10:52
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Originally Posted by Phantom4
Wiggy spot on as usual and has seen it all.
Take first offer and do not ruffle their feathers as they will just ring next person on the list.
’when can you start?’ 8.00am tomorrow is the response,not that hard.
FWIW BA May be shying away from MPL licences due lack of SA and teamwork skill set.
Surely thats their training providers fault for not teaching it properly. MPLs are bespoke courses to the sponsoring airlines needs. I would expect BA to tell the relevant ATO to rectify the deficiencies in training rather than just giving up on a chunky investment of time and money. No guarantees taking cadets from elsewhere will result in anything better.
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Old 15th Feb 2020, 11:13
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Have the first of the BA MPL cadets started on the A320 yet? I thought the scheme opened in 2018. I know BA city flyer have had MPL cadets for a few years now.
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Old 15th Feb 2020, 11:19
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Originally Posted by wiggy

As someone who is old enough to have has seen up close how BA responded to the impact of Gulf War 1, GW 2, 9/11 etc I will offer one bit of advice:

If you really want to leave wherever you are currently , and you really want to join BA then now is really really is not the time to finesse a joining date....... grab the first start date that BA put on the table.
OTOH; and purely anecdotal; the son of a friend of mine was due to fly to the US to start training as a BA cadet the day after 9/11. Needless to say, this was delayed with no indication of when or if it would be reinstated. The employer he had just left took him back and he’s now on the main board of a FTSE 100 company. As one door closes another opens.

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Old 15th Feb 2020, 11:46
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SleepyBhudda,You make a very good point but these are three,four years out of school in established airlines both domestic and ME.A colleague recently witnessed the candidate’s CFIT during procedural letdown due turning the wrong way.
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Old 15th Feb 2020, 14:31
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Good news for those of you who are crap at flying/CRM/decision-making etc, BA are trialing ditching the sim assessment for a select number of A320 DEPs.
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Old 15th Feb 2020, 14:40
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Bad idea and could be expensive long term.
IMHO only one category is capable of that path is RAF.
BTW I’m not ex military.
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Old 15th Feb 2020, 17:23
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Don't worry..it's only a trial ...there's obviously no chance of screening by way of a sim being dropped for all candidates, even if a cost saving does get demonstrated....no, no chance at all..




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Old 15th Feb 2020, 19:33
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Originally Posted by student88
Good news for those of you who are crap at flying/CRM/decision-making etc, BA are trialing ditching the sim assessment for a select number of A320 DEPs.
Interesting.

What's the criteria for these fine individuals?
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Old 15th Feb 2020, 19:46
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Anyone else got a start date In May and looking to share accommodation for TR course?

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Old 16th Feb 2020, 06:10
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Originally Posted by Phantom4
Bad idea and could be expensive long term.
IMHO only one category is capable of that path is RAF.
BTW I’m not ex military.
what utter tosh. In my experience ex mil are often the ones that need it the most! CRM and all that!

but that’s another thread.

ditching the sim is a very very bad idea! I think most people at coal face are horrified.
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Old 16th Feb 2020, 06:58
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Originally Posted by 2 Whites 2 Reds
what utter tosh. In my experience ex mil are often the ones that need it the most! CRM and all that!
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ditching the sim is a very very bad idea! I think most people at coal face are horrified.



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Old 16th Feb 2020, 07:12
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The only part of the selection that actually assesses the candidate under a bit of pressure while working alongside someone they’ve probably never met and managing the day to a safe and sound outcome regardless of issues coming up here and there. Ie what we actually do every day at work.

And it’s being ditched!

That verbal reasoning garbage is obviously much more valuable!

We’ve seen some odd decisions made in the last few years dressed loosely as anything other than cost cutting, but this is by far one of the most shocking.
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Old 16th Feb 2020, 13:35
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I respect your comments 2Whites 2Reds.
Do you have any idea of the Fail rate in the sim up to the time that this decision to waive the sim ride was made.
I understand it only relates to 320 applicants.
My Take is the Group Exercise is the most important element up to the sim.
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