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380 fleet is certainly the one to be on for a new joiner. All good trips and no low credit 2 crew stuff in winter at least. If the 350 launch route crewmour is true, it won’t be half as glamorous!
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I assume with EASA FTLs, the positioning from LHR to LGW needs to be shown. So an immediate benefit to the company is a reduction in duty hours spent (not) on the M25. I don't know exactly what arrangements BA have for pilots operating from LGW (HOTAC, taxis if required?) to comment further. What's the current benefit to the company of having all 777 drivers based in LHR?
For me personally, and I know I'm not alone, it's the difference between applying and not. One less CV to throw in the bin I suppose.
For me personally, and I know I'm not alone, it's the difference between applying and not. One less CV to throw in the bin I suppose.
I think the answer to your question however is probably flexibility, with more trips rumoured to be going down there who knows.
Looking at the P2 777 list very little LGW work seems to go down to the juniors and if it did ever go to a Beach Fleet on current terms then I think the bids would go senior so I would save that CV for when Level takes it over.
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Fairly straightforward C212 you’ll get a combination of somewhere between 3-4 trips each month. The fleet has it’s Western Cowboys doing the LA’s and SFO’s Chinese Barons doing SIN and HKG’s and the golfers doing the JNB’s. There is a lot of swapping going on under JSS. As a DEP you won’t get the variety that the Boeing’s do or the Cinderella (A350) fleet eventually. That can be good or bad depending on what you want to do.
Thank you very much for your reply. So, I assume for those getting DEP into the A380 would a fairly feasible commuting position, even if very junior and even if commuting from the Western Europe. Is my assumption correct or way off?
Cheers and again, thank you!
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Any chance to go deeper into what the a350 is supposed to be getting tripwise?
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Can someone clarify; to be considered for airbus F/O long haul you need to have 500 hrs on 350/380?
There are no long haul seats offered to those without long haul experience?
There are no long haul seats offered to those without long haul experience?
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As for why that makes a difference, well I drive past Gatwick on my way to Heathrow.
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Dear Wakarider,
Thank you very much for your reply. So, I assume for those getting DEP into the A380 would a fairly feasible commuting position, even if very junior and even if commuting from the Western Europe. Is my assumption correct or way off?
Cheers and again, thank you!
Thank you very much for your reply. So, I assume for those getting DEP into the A380 would a fairly feasible commuting position, even if very junior and even if commuting from the Western Europe. Is my assumption correct or way off?
Cheers and again, thank you!
No worries, looking at a few rosters I’d say from a commuting perspective, from Europe. The A380 would be the best fleet when you start out.
Cheers PM if I can help you out more
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That depends:
Trip lengths..anything from the odd/rare one day outliers, most trips are 3,4 or 5 day, max at the moment is the SYD trip (currently on the 777 ) which touches 9 days (departs evening of day one, gets back into LHR AM of day 9).
Time off between generally a minimum of two clear days, though in certain circumstances with certain trips it may be possible to opt to reduce time at base to a local night..OTOH the aforementioned Sydney trip demands 4 days/5 local nights off at base due to FTL constraints.
In very simplistic terms in a month with no leave embedded you possibly end up with 5 or 6 of the short (e.g. 2 or three day) trips, or say 3 or 4 of the longer trips.
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BA does not work 4/3 or anything of that nature. Bidline rules currently give you a minimum 2 days off after a long haul trip, or you’ll get EASA rest if that requires longer. Bidline days off can be waived when bidding, but EASA obviously cannot (although you can bid for back to backs as long as you pay for and use the company supplied hotel). When you bid, you can request more days off, but that does not mean you will get them.
People regularly ask for typical rosters on here, but typical rosters do not really exist because they very much depend upon seniority. Typically, I would say new entrants can expect a trip then two days off, continuously, with the odd three days off perhaps once every month or two. The frequency of two days off in between trips depends on fleet, monthly CAP and the credit/length of the trips you are managing to pick up. If you work on 2 days off all the time, you might be pleasantly surprised and do a little bit better than that, but in order to join with your eyes open, you need to assume just two days off is typical or you will almost certainly be disappointed with your move.
People regularly ask for typical rosters on here, but typical rosters do not really exist because they very much depend upon seniority. Typically, I would say new entrants can expect a trip then two days off, continuously, with the odd three days off perhaps once every month or two. The frequency of two days off in between trips depends on fleet, monthly CAP and the credit/length of the trips you are managing to pick up. If you work on 2 days off all the time, you might be pleasantly surprised and do a little bit better than that, but in order to join with your eyes open, you need to assume just two days off is typical or you will almost certainly be disappointed with your move.
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BA does not work 4/3 or anything of that nature. Bidline rules currently give you a minimum 2 days off after a long haul trip, or you’ll get EASA rest if that requires longer. Bidline days off can be waived when bidding, but EASA obviously cannot (although you can bid for back to backs as long as you pay for and use the company supplied hotel). When you bid, you can request more days off, but that does not mean you will get them.
People regularly ask for typical rosters on here, but typical rosters do not really exist because they very much depend upon seniority. Typically, I would say new entrants can expect a trip then two days off, continuously, with the odd three days off perhaps once every month or two. The frequency of two days off in between trips depends on fleet, monthly CAP and the credit/length of the trips you are managing to pick up. If you work on 2 days off all the time, you might be pleasantly surprised and do a little bit better than that, but in order to join with your eyes open, you need to assume just two days off is typical or you will almost certainly be disappointed with your move.
People regularly ask for typical rosters on here, but typical rosters do not really exist because they very much depend upon seniority. Typically, I would say new entrants can expect a trip then two days off, continuously, with the odd three days off perhaps once every month or two. The frequency of two days off in between trips depends on fleet, monthly CAP and the credit/length of the trips you are managing to pick up. If you work on 2 days off all the time, you might be pleasantly surprised and do a little bit better than that, but in order to join with your eyes open, you need to assume just two days off is typical or you will almost certainly be disappointed with your move.
Sounds tempting
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Let me get this straight, you seriously think the management are so stupid that they’ll trash all of that yield and reduce their profits significantly just to spitefully reduce Pilots’ Ts and Cs? Not happening. The fear around Level is ridiculous and unwarranted.
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Good job you’re not in charge of revenue management for IAG. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, there is not a cat in hell’s chance Level is going to replace the beach fleet. For emphasis not a chance in hell. The premium cabins are always full and make BA/IAG a fortune.
Let me get this straight, you seriously think the management are so stupid that they’ll trash all of that yield and reduce their profits significantly just to spitefully reduce Pilots’ Ts and Cs? Not happening. The fear around Level is ridiculous and unwarranted.
Touchy nerve or something. I'm quite aware of the loads thanks although I wouldn't spout about them on here, as for management stupidity, well I'll hold those views to myself.
My comment "I would save that CV for when Level takes it over." as I think most would have read was tongue in cheek. Vokes55 was looking purely for a 777 LGW roster or a 777 LGW base, tell me that my answer wasn't accurate......
But then again who knows for sure what new aircraft / routes and in what colour the future brings.... ��
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Rex.... We called their bluff on a LH LGW base a number of years ago if you remember.
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I’m making the point because there’s some people who genuinely believe that level are a threat to their livelihoods and take that fear into industrial negotiations with IAG and are afraid to call their bluff. No more no less.
I wouldn't put it past the management to hand over the routes and/or aircraft to Level at LGW. How long would it take to refit a Level aircraft to put a Club seat in?
This company cares more for cutting costs than growing or maintaining revenue, even at the price of long term damage to the brand.
This company cares more for cutting costs than growing or maintaining revenue, even at the price of long term damage to the brand.
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Integrate bmi or we will set up BA express
SH must be more efficient or else all investment will go to Vueling
Invest for today, invest in your future so we can pay shareholders today.
Level this, level that. Norwegian etc etc. Never, Lufthansa, KLM, American etc
We need to be sensible, after all how many cars are built at Longbridge now? But we also need to share in the success we are delivering and have confidence in our value to IAG. Let’s not sell ourselves short. Have confidence in the value we provide and the power of the brand.
Anyway, if BA want to be competitive with Easyjet and Ryanair then they need to start paying us better and working us less. 😉
SH must be more efficient or else all investment will go to Vueling
Invest for today, invest in your future so we can pay shareholders today.
Level this, level that. Norwegian etc etc. Never, Lufthansa, KLM, American etc
We need to be sensible, after all how many cars are built at Longbridge now? But we also need to share in the success we are delivering and have confidence in our value to IAG. Let’s not sell ourselves short. Have confidence in the value we provide and the power of the brand.
Anyway, if BA want to be competitive with Easyjet and Ryanair then they need to start paying us better and working us less. 😉