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LH cancels 3,800 flights due to pilot strike

Old 22nd Mar 2015, 13:23
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Good luck to them...at least they aren't endangering everyone by flying until 65.
Spot on! I would fly with Lufthansa any day! They have an excellent safety record and product, and all employees of DLH (Deutsche Luft Hansa) IMHO deserve a decent salary and decent working conditions!

Besides, why work yourself to death? DLH pilots obviously understand that working harder and harder for less and less money is a death spiral, and that the only thing that will improve in the company will the bonus of their managers.

That ACARS from YYR is nothing short of pure mobbing and DLH management should perhaps start with cutting pay and benefits of those YYR 'volunteers.'
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Old 23rd Mar 2015, 16:36
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These german boys and girls REALLY impress me !

At least some pilots have b@lls on this continent, unlike...the remainder.
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Old 23rd Mar 2015, 20:55
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Good luck to em all! Maybe we could get their union officials to pop over to Blighty and instill some Teutonic Steel into BALPA......Better still, how about getting them to represent us? I certainly voted with my feet. I salute the cajones of my Saxon colleagues
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Old 24th Mar 2015, 05:31
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Maybe we could get their union officials to pop over to Blighty and instill some Teutonic Steel into BALPA......Better still, how about getting them to represent us?
..it might be even better still get "them" to change UK Industrial Relations legislation to match the Teutonic version.
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Old 24th Mar 2015, 06:48
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like Air france, I think this strike will be completely useless unfortunately.
AF is sinking, there is no way out.
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Old 24th Mar 2015, 07:47
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I posted nearly a year ago (post 43) that there is more to this than meets the eye and that management appear to have picked where they want to fight. Their resolve may well be reinforced by the government's stance on reducing the power of smaller unions. Train drivers are also in the spotlight.

The current argument about the final salary pension has been described by some as a 'Platzhalter' or surrogate for the real issues, which by law the pilots could not strike about.

I personally know people who have left the union and others that are actually retiring early because they do not think the current pension scheme will continue.

The latest twist is the cabin crew union offering to act as mediator. Imagine that at BA! The new boss Spohr is (was?) an LH pilot and I would be amazed if he gives in.
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Old 24th Mar 2015, 09:47
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Good luck

If Aeropers and it's members had more balls then Swissair would probably still exist...it didn't and started screwing the unions in the 80s...first of all the catering...created a new company and paid the workers 20% less...no one stood up for them...similarly Swissport...and a few others...building up Crossair - I was at a meeting with the chief pilot who was warned they would have a major accident...they had two...then they stopped our profit sharing and inflation pay rises.

Strangely the Swiss admired Thatcher who destroyed the British Unions and huge cost to the UK...They didn't understand why Britain had such strong unions...my explanation was ignorant, bullying management - which was why Balpa was strong in my days in BEA.
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Old 24th Mar 2015, 14:48
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Yes, Blind Pew.

Thatcher was really bad for Britain, and the Unions were what was keeping Britain strong and world beating......



Before thatcher the unions were to strong, crippling the country now they are too weak. That is the nature of all such things. They are cyclic.

Between the two extremes are the good times.

Back then we needed Thatcher desperately. Now we need a little bit of good Union leadership.
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Old 24th Mar 2015, 14:56
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Or just honest leadership
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Old 24th Mar 2015, 15:18
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The current argument about the final salary pension has been described by some as a 'Platzhalter' or surrogate for the real issues, which by law the pilots could not strike about.
Everybody looking behind the curtain knows that the real issue is 'Wings' and its implication on mainline.
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