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Just talked to a friend that is there and is going to leave Air Indus and four other pilots are bailing out as the crew have not been paid in the last sixty days salary/perdium and airline ticket reimbursement.
He also said they had started out with three B737 planes just eight months ago and hey are already down to two planes as they are robbing parts off the third plane to keep the other two running.
He also said they had started out with three B737 planes just eight months ago and hey are already down to two planes as they are robbing parts off the third plane to keep the other two running.
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The exodus has started at Air Indus the ex-pat pilots were not paid salaries, perdium, and airline tickets. It was one excuse after another. Five pilots left within the last week.
The fourth plane you are hearing about is nothing new they had three planes at the beginning, however one is parked with parts off it to keep the other two flying. Windshield missing outflow valves etc.
The fourth plane you are hearing about was a Eastern Sky Jets wet lease however the plane did not pass the CAA conformity check.
My friends got burned by broken promises from the DO Dara and the chairman Wahid.
The fourth plane you are hearing about is nothing new they had three planes at the beginning, however one is parked with parts off it to keep the other two flying. Windshield missing outflow valves etc.
The fourth plane you are hearing about was a Eastern Sky Jets wet lease however the plane did not pass the CAA conformity check.
My friends got burned by broken promises from the DO Dara and the chairman Wahid.
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Well i can certainly vouch for the fact that the owners are not crooks.
As for being idiots, well a bit harsh to be honest, they have a sound business plan fully approved by the CAA and have a real passion to create an airline in Pakistan for the people.
However in my opinion they have simply under-capitalised the whole operation from start to today.
they have also been naieve in thinking they would get the help and support they needed, rather than them being seen as another cash cow.
They have struggled to get hold of aircraft of any use, again owners of basically scrap aircraft trying to screw a few dollars out of them.
There is very little infrastructure in Pakistan to support such a start up in terms of spares and crews and training and they are having to deal accross cultures to get things done.
The rupee has recently been re-valued and caused country wide problems with cash going to pay foreigners or exports.
They are limited to flying within their own boundaries for now which has stopped some of their route plans.
so i don't agree they are crooks or idiots. They do have honorable intentions, and they have invested a lot of their own money in the venture.
The only thing that makes them idiots is investing a large amount of their own money into the venture to try and do something they have a passion for, rather than just spending the money on supercars.
with the 737 being used for spares, they were advised to buy the aircraft as a spares ship for stripping as it would be cheaper and easier than trying to get parts as and when needed.
As for being idiots, well a bit harsh to be honest, they have a sound business plan fully approved by the CAA and have a real passion to create an airline in Pakistan for the people.
However in my opinion they have simply under-capitalised the whole operation from start to today.
they have also been naieve in thinking they would get the help and support they needed, rather than them being seen as another cash cow.
They have struggled to get hold of aircraft of any use, again owners of basically scrap aircraft trying to screw a few dollars out of them.
There is very little infrastructure in Pakistan to support such a start up in terms of spares and crews and training and they are having to deal accross cultures to get things done.
The rupee has recently been re-valued and caused country wide problems with cash going to pay foreigners or exports.
They are limited to flying within their own boundaries for now which has stopped some of their route plans.
so i don't agree they are crooks or idiots. They do have honorable intentions, and they have invested a lot of their own money in the venture.
The only thing that makes them idiots is investing a large amount of their own money into the venture to try and do something they have a passion for, rather than just spending the money on supercars.
with the 737 being used for spares, they were advised to buy the aircraft as a spares ship for stripping as it would be cheaper and easier than trying to get parts as and when needed.
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Bye,
With all due respect I don't know how you can stand up for these owners that have left pilots with no pay and are owed over twenty thousand dollars in salaries, perdium, and airline tickets they paid for out of pocket to fly to Karachi.
You cannot use the excuse of currency devaluation when they do not even honor the contracts these people were given and second they were promised week after week by the Company Director of Operations that they would be paid so they stayed on and were left hanging .
I personally know these pilots and they have families to support and for a chairman to tell his DO that he is not paying period is grand theft.
I have given them money out of my pocket for them to fly home and retain a lawyer and sue them for damages.
You should tell him that he should keep his word as a Muslim pay these people and if he has any class man up than go ahead and stop the bleeding and close the airline down if he is using the excuse of not being profitable.
With all due respect I don't know how you can stand up for these owners that have left pilots with no pay and are owed over twenty thousand dollars in salaries, perdium, and airline tickets they paid for out of pocket to fly to Karachi.
You cannot use the excuse of currency devaluation when they do not even honor the contracts these people were given and second they were promised week after week by the Company Director of Operations that they would be paid so they stayed on and were left hanging .
I personally know these pilots and they have families to support and for a chairman to tell his DO that he is not paying period is grand theft.
I have given them money out of my pocket for them to fly home and retain a lawyer and sue them for damages.
You should tell him that he should keep his word as a Muslim pay these people and if he has any class man up than go ahead and stop the bleeding and close the airline down if he is using the excuse of not being profitable.
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i didn't think i was standing up for them to be honest, apart from saying they are not crooks in my opinion.
if they have acted criminally then get the Police involved.
i thought i'd been quite critical really of them, sorry if that didn't come accross, and i am trying to get things resolved for people and help, which i have no obligation or benefit of doing but i am still trying to help out where i can.
i have no financial or personal link to them, and have never had a problem business wise with them, although we were considering a code share with them.
i will help anywhere i can if i can.
if they have acted criminally then get the Police involved.
i thought i'd been quite critical really of them, sorry if that didn't come accross, and i am trying to get things resolved for people and help, which i have no obligation or benefit of doing but i am still trying to help out where i can.
i have no financial or personal link to them, and have never had a problem business wise with them, although we were considering a code share with them.
i will help anywhere i can if i can.
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And Guess What!? they had all their aircrafts brought down to OPKC without any Air Indus Representative paying a visit to check out aircrafts technically. One email and a down payment brought the aircrafts to OPKC. They might have intentions to run an airline but they seriously need a well crafted team of professionals to run the airline. I hope they dig out of all the finance crashes and really FLY WITH DIFFERENCE!
The Chairman Mr.WAHID has to think differently to fulfill his slogan.
The Chairman Mr.WAHID has to think differently to fulfill his slogan.
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Ive helped them alot in the 3 months from july till october and I was told that il be given a job I did all their affairs with CAA including arranging crew checks , commercial stuff and marketing aswell I arranged them pilots from the world free of cost I also set the salary structures for the pilots and later when everything was settled for them they showed me the door and gave no job which was shocking because I sincerely worked hard for air indus to get them out of the troubled turmoil I also planned aircraft rotationsadjusting their fligt schedules aswell but the respinse I got was very saddening
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Former employees of Air Indus should drop a email or call the investigative reporter at the Express Tribune they Have been doing an investigative series on the corruption and safety of the airline.
They have done several articles including Air Indus doomed to fail and the money laundering.
Matter of fact they have recently gone to the CAA and interviewed the Air Marshall and Director General to push them to look into the matter and to resolve the issues.
It's gotten so big it looks like there Air Carrier Certificate is gong to be pulled by the CAA.
They have done several articles including Air Indus doomed to fail and the money laundering.
Matter of fact they have recently gone to the CAA and interviewed the Air Marshall and Director General to push them to look into the matter and to resolve the issues.
It's gotten so big it looks like there Air Carrier Certificate is gong to be pulled by the CAA.
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Air Indus is shoddy from the word go, I don't know how Bye is saying they are passionate about running an airline, look at their branding and website, both substandard, compare that to Air Blue who knew what they were doing from the start not compromising in any area unfortunately they are having some issues too, but still.