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I don't know about Turkish airlines in particular but I know that the facilities in Turkey are approved by EASA and many of the TRE has EASA-licenses in Turkey and that way they do LPCs and TRs without any problems so far with European CAAs.
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EU TRI/TRE/FI etc. Aviation Activities outside THY
HI,
Here a short commend from my side.
THYs ATO is not EASA approved and will not be until further. It runs still under the former JAR Standard TRTO.
THY will ask all expat pilots to get a Turkish ATP until end of 2014 to get rid of the licensing/validation problem especially with the EASA holders.
THY is not allowing any expat pilot any other activity outside THY. Plz be aware that this includes all private flying and even ALL ACTIVITIES which are REQUIRED to keep ENDORSEMENTS or AUTHORIZATIONS such as TRI/TRI (acc working contract para 6.16) Don't expect THY to give u any exemption.
THY did not or is not willing to understand that a min activity in a ATO is required to keep your personal TRI/TRE privileges alive. Nor THY is accepting that any EASA TRE is ONLY TO REPORT to his EASA national CAA or the CAA he is authorized after a Briefing. THY is allowing TRI/TRE activities only when nominated by THY (which is a clear misinterpretation of the EASA and former JAR principles which is based on the independent role of examiners).
So, u better be aware of this before u put ink under a THY working contract. THY is only interested in line-pilots without any other aviation activities!
As mentioned in many comments from others: THY is only interested to be JAR (EASA is a presently a No No) when it helps there reputation. Expect vertical hierarchies in cockpit and administration. Expect to work in an cockpit environment where a majority of local pilots are not willing to follow FCOMs or bulletins. The day-to-day live as a THY pilots is dominated by personal standards. This can be a challenge for FOs but even for DEC who are spending time as P3 on long haul flights. U are always superseded by a higher seniority local pilot. An open CRM atmosphere (sharing experience) and de-briefing culture is existing only on paper. This can give u headache and unpleasant times.
Here a short commend from my side.
THYs ATO is not EASA approved and will not be until further. It runs still under the former JAR Standard TRTO.
THY will ask all expat pilots to get a Turkish ATP until end of 2014 to get rid of the licensing/validation problem especially with the EASA holders.
THY is not allowing any expat pilot any other activity outside THY. Plz be aware that this includes all private flying and even ALL ACTIVITIES which are REQUIRED to keep ENDORSEMENTS or AUTHORIZATIONS such as TRI/TRI (acc working contract para 6.16) Don't expect THY to give u any exemption.
THY did not or is not willing to understand that a min activity in a ATO is required to keep your personal TRI/TRE privileges alive. Nor THY is accepting that any EASA TRE is ONLY TO REPORT to his EASA national CAA or the CAA he is authorized after a Briefing. THY is allowing TRI/TRE activities only when nominated by THY (which is a clear misinterpretation of the EASA and former JAR principles which is based on the independent role of examiners).
So, u better be aware of this before u put ink under a THY working contract. THY is only interested in line-pilots without any other aviation activities!
As mentioned in many comments from others: THY is only interested to be JAR (EASA is a presently a No No) when it helps there reputation. Expect vertical hierarchies in cockpit and administration. Expect to work in an cockpit environment where a majority of local pilots are not willing to follow FCOMs or bulletins. The day-to-day live as a THY pilots is dominated by personal standards. This can be a challenge for FOs but even for DEC who are spending time as P3 on long haul flights. U are always superseded by a higher seniority local pilot. An open CRM atmosphere (sharing experience) and de-briefing culture is existing only on paper. This can give u headache and unpleasant times.
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Anyone knows is THY so restrictive in hiring only EU passport holders,
I'd convert my licence into ATPL in Turkey and try to apply for Turkish but
I'm not EU passport holder,your information will be very appreciated
I'd convert my licence into ATPL in Turkey and try to apply for Turkish but
I'm not EU passport holder,your information will be very appreciated
Maybe because Turkey has been lobbying for entry to the EU, and if it succeeds in future any non- Turkish/ non- European passport holders would be in an awkward residency situation?
That could possibly be overcome, but maybe THY are just playing it safe for now.
That could possibly be overcome, but maybe THY are just playing it safe for now.
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Killlaroo. Don't worry - Turkey has no possibility of joining the EU for the foreseeable future. It has a dismal human right record, and despite claims to be a secular state is Islamic in all but name. As long as you are not a Christian, Kurd or Armenian you can get on ok but this is a nation whose values are radically different to the nations of the EU.
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I don't think THY require its pilots to be EU passport holders. They have asked myself and about 30 others to get Turkish ATPLs , which we are doing. I have never been questioned about EU residency.
I think Killaroo is mostly correct in his post. Brussels whispered to Turkey that their EU submission would be looked upon more favourably if they could employ some out of work Euopean pilots. The licensing requirements are more of a government thing than an airline requirement!
All a bit pointless now with the way the Turkish lira is travelling.
I don't think THY require its pilots to be EU passport holders. They have asked myself and about 30 others to get Turkish ATPLs , which we are doing. I have never been questioned about EU residency.
I think Killaroo is mostly correct in his post. Brussels whispered to Turkey that their EU submission would be looked upon more favourably if they could employ some out of work Euopean pilots. The licensing requirements are more of a government thing than an airline requirement!
All a bit pointless now with the way the Turkish lira is travelling.
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That's' a good information for me,cos I'm looking forward to work on THY,all their requirements I fulfill,so I should get an ATPL in Turkey that I most definitely am going to do,I do appreciate that information, I'd love to get further information from you if you don't mind,many thanks
Can anyone say what their jumpseating policy is?
Can you jumpseat in uniform as supernumerary crew?
Can you jumpseat with a ticket?
Do they give pilots Biz Class travel? First Class?
Do they allow upgrades on leisure travel?
Can you jumpseat in uniform as supernumerary crew?
Can you jumpseat with a ticket?
Do they give pilots Biz Class travel? First Class?
Do they allow upgrades on leisure travel?
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Do they give pilots Biz Class travel? First Class?
Do they give pilots Biz Class travel? First Class?
Pilots get 2 ID 90 per month eco upgradable bizz on space availability.
Not sure about jumpseat,but if flight is full and you have an ID 90,i guess you could ride upfront.
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Hi guys ,
I saw two agency's advertise the THY 737 NG for lower hour FO's I am 400 hours shirt of the normal contract but still don't qualify for the reduced hour contract because I do not have a 4 year university degree , so annoying, I mailed THY directly with a question about the degree and they sent me an application to fill out , fingers crossed as the agency's don't want to know.
I saw two agency's advertise the THY 737 NG for lower hour FO's I am 400 hours shirt of the normal contract but still don't qualify for the reduced hour contract because I do not have a 4 year university degree , so annoying, I mailed THY directly with a question about the degree and they sent me an application to fill out , fingers crossed as the agency's don't want to know.
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Better than unemployment until something comes up where you will be upgraded, it's strange that they will now accept low hour 737 and A320 FO's all license types but require a degree.... How strict will they be on this requirement.
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one agency requires a completion of Lufthansa's DLR Test Stage 1 and 2.
once you pass stage 2 you'll be offered a typerating and job within Lufthansa Group, so I don't think there are too much applicants for this postitions at THY
once you pass stage 2 you'll be offered a typerating and job within Lufthansa Group, so I don't think there are too much applicants for this postitions at THY
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Yeah I saw that hence why I am asking are they realistic requirements like how will they get 737 rated and experienced FO's (low hours) with the dlr stage 2 and a 4 year degree most of those guys are Lufthansa cadets / BA cadets to begin with, that's why I though with my 1000 hours 737 classic and NG I might be in with a chance.
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hey, I got a mail from the agency today to confirm my positive stage 1 & 2 DLR test. I confirmed to have passed DLR 1 & 2 = the entire Lufthansa assessment.
They will call Turkish Airlines on monday to discuss this topic. So I don't think they get tons of applications for this specific job ad
They will call Turkish Airlines on monday to discuss this topic. So I don't think they get tons of applications for this specific job ad
