Non type rated easyjet recruitment?
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One of the guys on my NTR DEC assessment day got a call this week for a course start date of 3rd December, for LGW base. He got into the ‘Talentpool’ a little after me. I guess they’re planning to call more as training capacity increases over the Winter.
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It is not true that you always get sent out of your base for the upgrade. The base transfer system is a transparent system, if you are willing to wait to be on top of a base list, you have total control over where you end up, even the same base where you are as a FO.
The portuguese contract has improved a lot in the last year, it is not as bad as people make it.
French/Italian/German bases are not impossible to get, but not the easiest either. The most popular bases are the big commuter bases like MXP or CDG. It might make sense to accept for a short time another base, eg LGW, and in a relatively short time another base should become available.
The portuguese contract has improved a lot in the last year, it is not as bad as people make it.
French/Italian/German bases are not impossible to get, but not the easiest either. The most popular bases are the big commuter bases like MXP or CDG. It might make sense to accept for a short time another base, eg LGW, and in a relatively short time another base should become available.
Thanks for the info guys. I know this is how aviation works, but I've been moving non stop for 10 years and I'd like to think that my next step (or the next one haha) will be the last one. And I know that's almost impossible in this industry, but......
Easyjet UK I guess it's out of the question with all the brexit crap. So we'd basically have Germany, France, Italy, Switzerland, Portugal and Spain I guess. Zero interest in Spain, I'm from there and I left 10 years ago. Politics kills me too much.
I've been reading about Portugal and how the contract/quality of life is not that good compared with other contracts. Is there any reason for it?
Switzerland. Awesome country, but I'm not sure money is that great since cost of living there is insane.
France/Italy. These are the best two contracts I assume?. How hard is to get on these if you're lucky enough to pass all the interviews?.
I read that upgrades, no matter from what base, are sent to London for a while. Will that change at all after Brexit?
Easyjet UK I guess it's out of the question with all the brexit crap. So we'd basically have Germany, France, Italy, Switzerland, Portugal and Spain I guess. Zero interest in Spain, I'm from there and I left 10 years ago. Politics kills me too much.
I've been reading about Portugal and how the contract/quality of life is not that good compared with other contracts. Is there any reason for it?
Switzerland. Awesome country, but I'm not sure money is that great since cost of living there is insane.
France/Italy. These are the best two contracts I assume?. How hard is to get on these if you're lucky enough to pass all the interviews?.
I read that upgrades, no matter from what base, are sent to London for a while. Will that change at all after Brexit?
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With RYR now bonding TR's, does anyone reckon EZY will start doing the same for non type rated FOs?
I see they will fund the type rating for someone will less than 1000 hours but what about the more experienced FOs that might not have the £25K for a type rating.
I see they will fund the type rating for someone will less than 1000 hours but what about the more experienced FOs that might not have the £25K for a type rating.
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That wildly depends on your pension contributions. In order to reduce as much as possible the taxable income over 100k pounds (above which the tax rate is 60%) most of the Captains put the maximum 40k per year in their pension pot. Also depending on loyalty bonus, etc.
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Regarding the Manchester base for DECs, the short answer is No! There is an internal queue miles long of pilots trying to get commands at MAN and the biggest danger you face as a captain there is being run over in the car park by someone trying to get your slot! It is inconceivable to me that any DECs will ever get a job there. The most likely base by far is LGW.
Regarding captain salaries, the UK deal is, within a few pounds, as follows:
Captain Basic of £104,747. You get paid 95% of that for the first 6 months but full pay after that. Sector pay is £34.97 (I think!). If you work on 430 sectors per year (varies by base) = 430 x £34.97 = £15,037.10. The Company pays 7% of basic (£7332.29) into your pension (there is a little more due to a smart pension rule but ignore that for now!). Therefore, the maximum you can put tax free into your pension is £32667.71. You also get performance related pay which is typically £2k-£3k a year if the company does well. You can also put £500 per month into the share schemes and most captains do that, but it is completely optional. You often get a further £3k worth of shares if the company is doing well - that will almost certainly happen again this year. After 5 years they are yours to cash-in at whatever the shares are worth then and the whole deal is tax free. There is no incremental pay, but after 2 years, you get 5% of your basic salary loyalty bonus paid annually on the anniversary of you joining, after 5 years 10% and after 10 years 15%. That carries on for as long as you remain an employee. Remember that once you earn over £100k in the UK you effectively get taxed at around 62% - therefore every captain does what he can to keep his salary below that using pension contributions.
There are therefore many variables so it is hard to say what anyone gets as they all put in different amounts into the pension and share schemes plus you cannot guarantee exactly how many sectors you will fly. To keep it simple, however, if you are a UK captain after the first 6 months, but before the loyalty bonus kicks in, putting nothing into the shares but just reducing your salary below £100k by pension contributions, flying 430 sectors a year, you can expect to take home £5,500 a month. If you put the full £40k (including company 7%) and fly 430 sectors a year with no share scheme contributions, you will earn very close to £120k a year. Take off your £32,667 into the pension fund and that leaves £87,117. That will give you £4877 per month. In addition you will still get your performance shares (£3k) and the performance payments etc if they happen. There is another slight oddity and that is, by union agreement, you get £56/month for leave payments - every little helps! I hope all that makes sense. It is not a clear picture but very logical if you plug the figures into you own circumstances depending on share payments and pension contributions.
Regarding captain salaries, the UK deal is, within a few pounds, as follows:
Captain Basic of £104,747. You get paid 95% of that for the first 6 months but full pay after that. Sector pay is £34.97 (I think!). If you work on 430 sectors per year (varies by base) = 430 x £34.97 = £15,037.10. The Company pays 7% of basic (£7332.29) into your pension (there is a little more due to a smart pension rule but ignore that for now!). Therefore, the maximum you can put tax free into your pension is £32667.71. You also get performance related pay which is typically £2k-£3k a year if the company does well. You can also put £500 per month into the share schemes and most captains do that, but it is completely optional. You often get a further £3k worth of shares if the company is doing well - that will almost certainly happen again this year. After 5 years they are yours to cash-in at whatever the shares are worth then and the whole deal is tax free. There is no incremental pay, but after 2 years, you get 5% of your basic salary loyalty bonus paid annually on the anniversary of you joining, after 5 years 10% and after 10 years 15%. That carries on for as long as you remain an employee. Remember that once you earn over £100k in the UK you effectively get taxed at around 62% - therefore every captain does what he can to keep his salary below that using pension contributions.
There are therefore many variables so it is hard to say what anyone gets as they all put in different amounts into the pension and share schemes plus you cannot guarantee exactly how many sectors you will fly. To keep it simple, however, if you are a UK captain after the first 6 months, but before the loyalty bonus kicks in, putting nothing into the shares but just reducing your salary below £100k by pension contributions, flying 430 sectors a year, you can expect to take home £5,500 a month. If you put the full £40k (including company 7%) and fly 430 sectors a year with no share scheme contributions, you will earn very close to £120k a year. Take off your £32,667 into the pension fund and that leaves £87,117. That will give you £4877 per month. In addition you will still get your performance shares (£3k) and the performance payments etc if they happen. There is another slight oddity and that is, by union agreement, you get £56/month for leave payments - every little helps! I hope all that makes sense. It is not a clear picture but very logical if you plug the figures into you own circumstances depending on share payments and pension contributions.
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60% tax rate in the UK above £100k? You sure about this?
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...rrent-and-past
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...rrent-and-past
60% tax rate in the UK above £100k? You sure about this?
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...rrent-and-past
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...rrent-and-past
Read here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ap-set-double/
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Thanks a lot for this info. However I have different figures coming from a friend based there. He got between £5400 and £6400 net during his training and now he gets around £7300 net. How can it be? Maybe children deductions? I am confused now.
As far as I know the worse contract is in Portugal where you get less than 7000 euros net but at least you don't have to pay the Type Rating. How is it possible that UK is even worse than that (6000 euros roughly)?
From what people say here, most of the people seems to do the maximum to earn less than 100K£ a year using the max pension contributions.
I don't know what your friend do (maybe he like more to have cash, and do his retirement by himself, buying flat, ...)
I m sure there are enough easy cpt (what I m not) here to say, if you can do 146K£ a year (it seems with few years in the company possible from what I know)
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I was told to expect to gross about £122,000 for LGW, which is about £6,200 net or £5,500 if you put approx. 18% into your pension to stay just under the £100,000. I don’t believe it’s 95% for the first six months, I certainly hope not if they also expect you to pay for the damn type rating!
I believe new internal command upgrades are on 90% of basic salary for the first 6 Months, probably to recoup ‘training costs’.
I believe new internal command upgrades are on 90% of basic salary for the first 6 Months, probably to recoup ‘training costs’.
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Dct_Mopas, interesting read, thank you, I had no idea you lose your personal alliance if you earn above 100k.
Also does anyone know roughly how long you stay in the hold pool for LGW DEC?
Also does anyone know roughly how long you stay in the hold pool for LGW DEC?
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They say they hope to be able to offer a course within 12 months, at a ‘mutually agreeable’ date (most need to give 3 months notice), I know some have been in for nearly a year and only just accepted a course (having turned down earlier offers for other bases), others have been in for 4 months and recently accepted offers, this is all for LGW. Depends on your notice period and their requirements and training resources.
