Norwegian B737 Pilot selection (Updated)
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Can anyone tell me at what point in the hiring process are you assigned your base assuming that you pass screening?
Also wondering, say you got a base and you were going to commute. Can you commute for free? If so, are the jumpseats available, or spare FA attendant seats available. I am trying to assess how doable this might in the beginning if I was assigned somewhere I am not prepared to move my family.
Finally, I know Riga, FCO, and EDI are the official bases they are trying to fill at the moment. Does anyone know what might be coming next? I guess next base bid in October will also change things.
Also wondering, say you got a base and you were going to commute. Can you commute for free? If so, are the jumpseats available, or spare FA attendant seats available. I am trying to assess how doable this might in the beginning if I was assigned somewhere I am not prepared to move my family.
Finally, I know Riga, FCO, and EDI are the official bases they are trying to fill at the moment. Does anyone know what might be coming next? I guess next base bid in October will also change things.
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Thats the reason why I did'nt join Norwegian. They told me that ni June It would be new bases available and that It would be easy to get a spanish base... they don't tell the truth.
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So whatever they promise the reality I guess is you draw a base from what is available after you commence your groundschool. How about after that, would you guys say the process is fair from getting from assigned base to the one you want?
Can anyone comment on what is the most frustrating thing at Norwegian?
FLYBOYUK can you elaborate on how they screwed you around?
CAPTPLAYSTATION did you work at Norwegian before? Can you offer both the good and the bad of working there?
Also wondering how reliable using the jumpseat is? Is just one in the flightdeck available? I know some other airlines allow spare FA jumspeats as well. Trying to figure out how stressful jumpseating would be.
Can anyone comment on what is the most frustrating thing at Norwegian?
FLYBOYUK can you elaborate on how they screwed you around?
CAPTPLAYSTATION did you work at Norwegian before? Can you offer both the good and the bad of working there?
Also wondering how reliable using the jumpseat is? Is just one in the flightdeck available? I know some other airlines allow spare FA jumspeats as well. Trying to figure out how stressful jumpseating would be.
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1. The base bidding process is as fair as can be: base bidding can be done twice a year and as all base transfers are done strictly in accordance with the MSL, you will eventually get to where you want to be and the process is transparent.
2. Commuting is stress free, it isn't jumpseating, you get a standby ticket and only if there are no seats in the cabin will jumpseats be allocated, again strictly in order of seniority, and all flight deck and cabin jumpseats are available. People very rarely get left behind.
2. Commuting is stress free, it isn't jumpseating, you get a standby ticket and only if there are no seats in the cabin will jumpseats be allocated, again strictly in order of seniority, and all flight deck and cabin jumpseats are available. People very rarely get left behind.
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Can anyone comment on what is the most frustrating thing at Norwegian?
In a Dagbladet news article on 22 April, 2017, reporting that Norwegian is accused of “union busting” in Italy, Norwegian’s paid mouthpiece informs readers of the; “Clear evidence we respect freedom of association” –
http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/norw...talia/67501924
Paid mouthpiece conveniently forgets that on 27 February, 2017, Dagbladet reported clear evidence; “Norwegian fined 90,000 kroner to prevent union election at its base in Malaga” –
http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/norw...svalg/67342877
Such is the conflict between Norwegian and its pilots over union representation the Norwegian Pilot Group was forced to petition that ANPAC be recognized as the choice of pilots based in Italy –
https://www.eurocockpit.be/news/over...ecognize-anpac
Norwegian’s US based flight attendants took the initiative to obtain a legal ruling the Norwegian airline is the REAL EMPLOYER and recently voted to join the powerful AFA, AFL-CIO federation union. Consequently, they have union representation and shortly a collective agreement directly with the airline, negating direct employment circumvention and any associated circumvention of labor rights and labor principles. Not surprisingly Norwegian is contesting the union ballot result –
http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/uhyr...mming/67506473
So much for the; “Clear evidence we respect freedom of association”.
Norwegian’s European based pilots also have the option to obtain a legal ruling the airline is the real employer. For whatever reason, they continue to be divided slaves rather than united masters of their destiny.
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1. The base bidding process is as fair as can be: base bidding can be done twice a year and as all base transfers are done strictly in accordance with the MSL, you will eventually get to where you want to be and the process is transparent.
2. Commuting is stress free, it isn't jumpseating, you get a standby ticket and only if there are no seats in the cabin will jumpseats be allocated, again strictly in order of seniority, and all flight deck and cabin jumpseats are available. People very rarely get left behind.
2. Commuting is stress free, it isn't jumpseating, you get a standby ticket and only if there are no seats in the cabin will jumpseats be allocated, again strictly in order of seniority, and all flight deck and cabin jumpseats are available. People very rarely get left behind.
-They have been known to move people to core bases outside of their seniority position.
- If they deam that a base is "temporary" then they can throw out the MSL and pick whoever they want.
-A few years ago they displaced some LGW pilots to make room for less senior Spanish based pilots due to training requirements.
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1. Yes, that's true but that was a few isolated incidents. Nothing of the sort has happened lately.
2. Yes, also true, but still i.a.w. the MSL, i.e. those positions will be allocated according to seniority, the exception being training bases where you start your line training and stay on a little while longer.
3. Absolute nonsense, yes, people were moved from LGW, but the less senior pilots that got to stay and those that were moved in were LTC's, not strictly fair but due to operational requirements. This practice however is a thing of the past now, as the LGW base is now crewed by permanent employees rather than fixed term contractors and as such, UK labour law applies.
2. Yes, also true, but still i.a.w. the MSL, i.e. those positions will be allocated according to seniority, the exception being training bases where you start your line training and stay on a little while longer.
3. Absolute nonsense, yes, people were moved from LGW, but the less senior pilots that got to stay and those that were moved in were LTC's, not strictly fair but due to operational requirements. This practice however is a thing of the past now, as the LGW base is now crewed by permanent employees rather than fixed term contractors and as such, UK labour law applies.
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the LGW base is now crewed by permanent employees rather than fixed term contractors and as such, UK labour law applies.
“In circumstances where:
(b) Client [Norwegian airline] terminates its agreement with the Employer [agency] with respect to the Employee [pilot], then the Employer shall be entitled to terminate this Agreement by giving 30 days written notice to the employee”
Three contracts were exposed by the National Mediation Board investigation of the Norwegian/OSM relationship:
1. Agency/crew member
2. Agency/Norwegian airline for total crew members provision of services
3. Agency/Norwegian airline for EACH crew member and their provision of services.
Item 3 permits the Norwegian airline to terminate the respective crew member(s) services without notice, reason or recourse - ref clause (b) above. The notice period is with the employer agency, not the Norwegian airline. That such an arrangement/scheme may be considered permanent employment with a Norwegian airline is delusional.
The nature of business of Norwegian OSM Aviation and Rishworth’s Global Crew UK is listed by Companies House as; “Other activities of employment placement agencies” – links:
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09462762
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10697097
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09543804
There is a reason Norwegian Group airlines do not employ their pilots directly. A shelf-stacker at Tesco’s has more labor law rights than a pilot with a Norwegian airline.
Has anything happened lately with Norwegian family members based in Italy and their “representative” union?
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Hi guys!
Do you know what the best way is to apply?
It looks like there are 2 different links: the first one from the Norwegian website redirects you to a website called webrecruiter, where you have to submit your profile, and the 2nd one is via OSM (and again you have to submit your profile).
What's the difference between the 2 ?
Do you know what the best way is to apply?
It looks like there are 2 different links: the first one from the Norwegian website redirects you to a website called webrecruiter, where you have to submit your profile, and the 2nd one is via OSM (and again you have to submit your profile).
What's the difference between the 2 ?
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