Can you actually find a job without hours on B/AB?

[ellafliestheskies]

Hi y'all!

I'm a bit desperate. I have 3000hrs on RJ and it seems virtually impossible to find a decent job somewhere without a Boeing or Airbus rating. And forget about RJ jobs all together. Is the Middle East seriously the only option? I would love to live in SE Asia, or Australia, but they are just not giving type ratings anymore, and you don't even get a chance to prove yourself in the sim without one.
Got an interview with BA, but doesn't look like that's ever gonna happen so need to look for other options. And I thought my job would easily bring me anywhere in the world :-(

All tips welcome!

Cheers

[B737-pilot]

Try China.

[The Dominican]

Give EVA a try, good luck

[Luke SkyToddler]

Is the Middle East seriously the only option?

No, but in terms of raw numbers they are recruiting a hell of a lot more guys like you to Boeing / Bus than anyone else on earth. It's not so bad at QR as long as you keep your eyes on the prize - i.e. get a couple thousand hours and get the hell out again back to civilization

[stop, stop, stop]

Agreed Luke. The Middle East is not as bad as many of the stories have you believe. After 2 years you'll have enough experience for a whole load more airlines than the RJ will get you.

I have not been dissapointed.

[Boeing Europe]

I have 1k hours on a boeing 737-800 and I cant get a sniff of anything.

[Stick35]

Boeing europe, did you try china and asia? Why is that not working?

[Boeing Europe]

I am pretty sure I have tried everywhere ha , nothing in china without 1500 total time and that is a requireent for only 1 or 2 contracts most are 3k TT , as regards other places in asia nothing I have tried hong kong express cathay dragon air etc indonesia there is an opening I am awaiting an interview date if I get one throught an agency but most airlines in indo only take pay 2 fly or indo nationals about to give up

[TheBigFella]

I think Swiss / Swiss European are recruiting onto their RJs with pretty decent Ts and Cs. You have to be able to speak German though.

[B767PL]

Theres just almost no work out there for guys without hundreds of hours on type. Even QR stopped recruitment for the time being. One big hot mess.

[deadcut]

I have 1k hours on a boeing 737-800 and I cant get a sniff of anything.

nothing in china without 1500 total time

How did you get 1k on the 737 and not have 1500 TT?

[4Screwaircrew]

@ deadcut, you start as an F.O. with a couple of hundred hours to your name, this is not unusual in Europe.

[Boeing Europe]

Very easy Deadcut , you finish flight school with about 230 hours bang out a million applications eventually get a job flying a 737 fly for 1000 hours and when you add your 230 flight school hours (1000+230=1230) you get 1000 hours flying a 737 but not 1500 total time.

[Microburst2002]

Be patient!

stay for a few years in your airline until you build time to apply for a better one

[WYOMINGPILOT]

China only wants Captains with 500 hours PIC on type. If you have PIC try China Express flying the RJ. In Indonesia try Garuda as they are now flyng CRJs. In Taiwan try EVA. Best of Luck.

[magicmick]

If you've got RJ time and can speak German:

Captain und First Officer AVRO RJ85 (German Speaking)-Latest Pilot Jobs-Latest Pilot Jobs

hope that helps

[B767PL]

Don't speak German, but from my very limited ability with the language I think I am making out they also want a type rating, in regards to the link 2 posts above.

"Type Rating AVRO RJ85 von Vorteil"

[tailstrike1]

Hi,

wtf is Flair Jet ?
I've been around in the av biz over a decade - never heard of FJ- sounds like another scammer on it's way



My 5 cents

[Boeing Europe]

@scratch the sky

I though they allready have been recruiting sent in an application last week 2000 plus apparently so dont really have high hopes there.

@tailstrike-flairjet are an oxford based corporate crowd they only have phenom 100 and 300 in oxford , they opned a base in dublin I spoke with their chief pilot a while back , I was invited for interview but declines as I was not prepared to fund an penom TR , they have a very legit website and offices @ oxford

[magicmick]

Flair Jet in Oxford (flair-jet.co.uk) and the German Flair Jet (Flairjet.aero) are 2 different companies.
The German version does indeed need time on type and German language, if I remember correctly the person starting this thread had a rating and time on type and was looking for RJ work without getting a Boeing or Bus rating so the German job might be an option if they speak the lingo.
Don't know much about the German outfit but the UK Flair-Jet are definitely legit and personnaly if they made a solid offer of employment with good Ts&Cs I'd consider stumping up for a type rating.