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Old 24th Aug 2012, 10:38
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Thumbs down Travel Air scam

Warning to all pilots that Travel Air of PNG are not paying salaries, tickets and other bills to their pilots and oother employes. All pilots have lost month or two in salary and this very dishonest people are now trying to hire pilots through manpower company in UK. I my self just lost 20.000 $ down there with Travel Air. That is to much to keep silent.
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 16:28
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Travel Air scam

Thanks for the information. I just applied for a job with them and will cross it off my list.
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I saw an ad from Morson International Ltd, is that the agency you are referring to?
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 19:37
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Travel Air scam

Yes that was the one, I think I also applied directly.
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 20:25
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Where is PNG ? and Travel Air, out of curiosity I checked, but couldn't find PNG


We are not talking Travelservice in Prague ? I guess , as always heard + things about them.
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 20:40
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PNG is Papua New Guinea.
www.travelairpng.com
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Cheers
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how did you lose 20k? Paid for a rating?
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Old 27th Aug 2012, 12:04
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No ,I had my fokker 50 rating before and valid, but they started paying late and then it came later and later until they where two months behind and owed also for travel tickets from europe to Papua new guinea and back, hotel nights, and other cost that I had payed for them while staying there. I just hope that no-one falls in their trap again.
Also all foreign pilots worked and stayed there illegal due to entering the country on business visa , but it is highly illegal to work on business visa in PNG and up to one year prison if cought. No insurance where ever paid for any of the pilots or workers in general, safety of people not up to any standars in this part of the world.
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Old 28th Aug 2012, 12:09
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well my friend from sweden, I heard different story " a newly born airlines was raped by couple greedy pilots"........They signed the contract with rotation of 3 months on and 1 month off and going in and out of the country with the bless of their boss credit card. they were coming in and out with tourist visa and one of them informed immigration before joining with other company(heavilift).They refused to give papers for work permit & visa and continued asking more salary and reimbursement for food & hotel bill...final all got screwed and blaming the airlines..

I heard also they brought couple pilots with proper visa and bringing more aircraft F50 cargo & Q400.
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Old 28th Aug 2012, 16:36
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Easy Solution.
Take one of their aircraft (scheduled/otherwise, does not matter ) fly to destination within EC land, claim lien on aircraft against unpaid dues.

Would probably work in certain loosely-regulated areas of the world as well.
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Old 30th Aug 2012, 03:24
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Travel Air Scam

Travel Air has set up of 4 aircraft but utilised 1 or some time 2. The excuse was pilot shortage. But shortage was because bad restoring and administration in flight ops.So the revenue was lower than operating expense.

Easy solution to fly maximum aircraft to maximize revenue.

Nearly 20 pilot is going to fly early next month.
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Old 1st Sep 2012, 09:34
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That means 20 new pilots to steal from. I feel sorry for them but it seems always to be easy to find new victims of scams, and to blame the bad Travel Air business on ops. sounds exactly like the snake from Bangledesh that has bee organizing the scam from start until now. out of 15 expad pilots, how many are still there? Only two. That says all.
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Old 13th Sep 2012, 02:36
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Travel Air Scam

Bangladesh man was the first who appointed all staffs and organised all works for Travel air.

If you have objection against someone skin or nationality then you are not professional man.

You signed 3 months on and 1 month off contract. But you forced travel air for 1 month on and 1 month off and pay all of your bill..otherwise strike

Now you are trying to defend your selves. What a joke!!
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Whats Bangladesh got to do with any of this?

Hi, may I ask who is Bangladesh Man and what Bangladesh inparticular has got to do with all of this?

Thanks
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Angry I’m so ******* tired of Travel Air PNG

I haven’t got my salary from Travel Air PNG for several months now and still miss a lot of costs which they owe me.
I wonder where my salary has gone. For sure on my account it's not.
We are working very hard for them and in return for that they treat us as criminal.
It is very difficult to live with, and now I've had enough.
Nothing will hold me back, and with the first chance I'm out of Travel Air PNG http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...cons/icon8.gif
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Old 10th Jul 2013, 08:03
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Can I suggest if you have not beep paid for several months, that you leave now. Like, right now!
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Swedone,

you're doing the right thing by advising others of this potential pitfall. Hopefully some of those ex Skyways F50s will end up at more serious operators, and they'll need drivers.
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Dear Swedepilot and the many other pilots who seem to be unable to help themselves. As a on/off professional contractor and businessman, with the best will in the world:

30 days late, shame on them
31 days late, shame on you

Anyone who remains in a job beyond 30 days after the last paycheck was due is an "enabler". They are facilitating an operation that is at best poor and at worst dangerous.

1. Plan your departure and plan B and consult with a lawyer if your location or circumstances require it.
2. Write a polite resignation letter that states CONCISELY your reasons for leaving and the next steps for recovering the debt. This might include liens, credit reporting and informing the authorities in their areas of operation (AOC holders require minimum financial reserves). This will help you clarify the issues and process you will follow.
3. Attempt a "last amicable collection". A short, but reasonable deadline may be used.
4. If this doesn't work, send in resignation. Do this after leaving if your location or circumstances require it.
5. Initiate the process described in your letter and plan B.:

Ask yourself this- if you are not living off your own savings and investments, why on earth should your family (I can't think of any other source of income) be subsidizing a terrible company or your folly?

The point here is you have to conduct yourself as a business and no solvent business can or should carry bad debt. If you do otherwise, it shows poor business skills and besides anything, a low level of self respect and possibly selfishness.

I know it is tough and you may be inexperienced, but you have to be professional.
Good luck.

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Old 14th Jul 2013, 02:29
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Dignity, selfishness - or irresponsibility towards peers ?

Those companies know when and if the pilot respects himself or herself, according to how much the pilot claims for what he deserves.

If he does not claim anything, he may be displaying that he does not feel he worth much, that he is terrified to loose a non-paying job, or that he hangs on at even negative salary.

This interactive style and its consequences applies to all negociation levels.

However, those companies also know how to keep all employees working for them free with false promises and by giving false hope of financial recovery, from the parking clerk, the little cleaning ladies, the executives of the telephone provider, via the pilots.

When the deterioration of the company's economy has been gradual and kept secret, the question is " when will the employees wake up ? "

I have followed survivers of an airline bankrupcy. The employees discovered that the owner was in jail when the electrical company came to remove the watt-counter.
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