Sand Pit S/O's

[beerdrinker]

At least one of the Sand Pit airlines does sponsorships for ab initios. I have heard recently of a chap who has just finished and is joining the sponsoring airline as a Second Officer on the 330.Will he go into the RHS as a S/O or will his job be a Cruise relief pilot for a while.

[flyforfood1]

At QR, S/O's go into the RHS and operate as a normal F/O. Line training generally takes 6 months for a new S/O.

[Wizofoz]

....but AFAIK it is NOT fully sponsored- you need a frozen ATPL for a S/O position (stand to be corrected, but that is what I think is the case).

The only ab-initio positions I know of in the ME are Cadetships restricted to local Citizens.

[aviator_]

Hi Wizofoz,

Those hour requirements out in the ME usually set 1000TT aren't they?

[Wizofoz]

AV,

Depends for who.

For Emirates, it's 4000TT including 2000 Jet, or 2500TT, all on a "Modern, Efis Jet", and they don't make exceptions!

Pretty sure E T I H A D is much the same.

I think around 1000hr TT qualifies you for "Fast track" S/O with QR, and they take a small number of bare frozen ATPLs as "Regular" S/Os

[Wirbelsturm]

My employer requires all RHS to hold a full, unfrozen ATPL for LH operations as three man crews (1 Capt, 2 FO's) require the FO in the LHS to be PIC during the period of the Commanders rest. If it were different then I could only nominate the Unfrozen ATPL holder to occupy the LHS as an Unfrozen ATPL holder can only be PIC U/S under the supervision of the Commander not the other FO.

Is this different in the Sandpit?

Honest question as I don't know anyone out there anymore!