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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Stooge or less than 200 hours in the airline...... if it's the latter, you'll learn within 3 months, not 3 years.
Everyone is trying to leave from the boardroom down, to TRE's, base Captains, line Captains, SFI's and FO's.
Everyone is trying to leave from the boardroom down, to TRE's, base Captains, line Captains, SFI's and FO's.
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Naif? No, I know what I doing. I not that fond of paying everything out of my own pocket (yes, I do think paying for an uniform, id card, assessmment, etc) is ridiculous. But if that´s what it takes to get a job, then I´m not one of those stubborn kids rejecting the job, staring itself blind on a B777 job as S/O at BA, LH, KLM.
Like I said; I´m getting paid more at RYR then I´m getting now at my cosy, predictable, IT-job. So for getting paid more (having more financial room) and actually flying while getting paid, I´m willing to take experience as a RYR pilot. The job market is pretty terrible and after 2 years of jobhunting I´m glad of getting this offer.
It´s easy to respond negative against RYR having a job at an airline which pays more, serves you lobster in the cockpit and is only asking you to fly twice a month. But for those not having a job, it´s a whole different ballgame and I sometimes wonder if those steady-job-pilots do understand this? Not everyone has the possibility to reject every offer which isn´t 200% up to their demands. Not everyone has a family willing/able to pay their finances until they found that big job.
That the airline industry isn´t what it used to be during the 80´s, well... we all know that right? Every job has this problem (IT,Marketing,aviation), but I believe the pilots are the ones why are crying the hardest (I can image, as they need to pay the upkeep for their Porsches).
Being a pilot isn´t about the glamour and loads of cash anymore, it´s a well known fact. Maybe I´ll come back on all of this after some time, but at least I´ll be working my a** off while flying and getting paid. Thats better then what I´m doing now
Like I said; I´m getting paid more at RYR then I´m getting now at my cosy, predictable, IT-job. So for getting paid more (having more financial room) and actually flying while getting paid, I´m willing to take experience as a RYR pilot. The job market is pretty terrible and after 2 years of jobhunting I´m glad of getting this offer.
It´s easy to respond negative against RYR having a job at an airline which pays more, serves you lobster in the cockpit and is only asking you to fly twice a month. But for those not having a job, it´s a whole different ballgame and I sometimes wonder if those steady-job-pilots do understand this? Not everyone has the possibility to reject every offer which isn´t 200% up to their demands. Not everyone has a family willing/able to pay their finances until they found that big job.
That the airline industry isn´t what it used to be during the 80´s, well... we all know that right? Every job has this problem (IT,Marketing,aviation), but I believe the pilots are the ones why are crying the hardest (I can image, as they need to pay the upkeep for their Porsches).
Being a pilot isn´t about the glamour and loads of cash anymore, it´s a well known fact. Maybe I´ll come back on all of this after some time, but at least I´ll be working my a** off while flying and getting paid. Thats better then what I´m doing now
Join Date: Mar 2008
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"yes, I do think paying for an uniform, id card, assessmment, etc) is ridiculous." - then why are you accepting it? You're right it is ridiculous, most pilots I know are pretty bright and know a bad deal when they see one. I turned down a crap deal (not quite as bad as RYR) 2 years ago on a decent turboprop, 6 months after that and I got into an excellent corporate job, and more recently I turned down a job move to another corporate outfit on better equipment but again the deal was not up to scratch. Saying "no" is acceptable.
I don't know who is worse, those who can see the deal is "ridiculous" but still accept it anyway, or those who think it's actually not too bad.
"but at least I´ll be working my a** off while flying and getting paid" - and this is just remarkable. So you're quite happy to "work your a** off" and never see your family/friends, do cool stuff like go on holiday and enjoy life?
"that's better than what I'm doing now" - time will tell.
You sound like the perfect RYR pilot, willing to work your a** off, and get a terrible deal all at the same time.
Having said all that I do wish you all the best and I hope you enjoy yourself.
I don't know who is worse, those who can see the deal is "ridiculous" but still accept it anyway, or those who think it's actually not too bad.
"but at least I´ll be working my a** off while flying and getting paid" - and this is just remarkable. So you're quite happy to "work your a** off" and never see your family/friends, do cool stuff like go on holiday and enjoy life?
"that's better than what I'm doing now" - time will tell.
You sound like the perfect RYR pilot, willing to work your a** off, and get a terrible deal all at the same time.
Having said all that I do wish you all the best and I hope you enjoy yourself.
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Guys lay off him already would you?
The guys is clearly new to the industry and new to Ryanair. Let him be for a year, maybe two, and then ask him again what he thinks of Ryanair.
That's the way it went with me, that's the way it goes for 99% of the new people.
The guys is clearly new to the industry and new to Ryanair. Let him be for a year, maybe two, and then ask him again what he thinks of Ryanair.
That's the way it went with me, that's the way it goes for 99% of the new people.
Join Date: Mar 2000
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It always makes me giggle when a naieve trainee comes on here and starts spouting on about how RYR is great before they even work for them. I've seen it so many times on here and even to people I've had a hand in training.
They start off all wide eyed and full of wonderment, but 2 years later they hate the place and can't wait to get out.
It would be funny if it wasn't so depressing or wasn't happening to people who I actually give a toss about.
Sad really, but each to their own and everyone has to make their own way in this industry.
They start off all wide eyed and full of wonderment, but 2 years later they hate the place and can't wait to get out.
It would be funny if it wasn't so depressing or wasn't happening to people who I actually give a toss about.
Sad really, but each to their own and everyone has to make their own way in this industry.
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This guy xolon is exactly like the rest of you FR chumps who forked out a wad to get to the RHS, leave him alone and let him enjoy 15 minutes of fame just like all you on here complaining did.
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Where the company needs me not where I want to be!
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Been in FR for nearly 4 years now myself
The money is ok as I work a lot of hours, but the cost of those hours is missing so much in my REAL LIFE!
its like having two lives, one I work hard and pay all my bills but do nothing but recover after my days on, or I work not a lot and cant afford to do anything on my days off because of commuting and lots of extra expenses, the uniforms medical ID etc all eventually add up to real money!
Keep looking at jobs further afield thinking the grass will be greener, but I really just want to go home to the lads and a pint after work in the local, and EK are not going to offer that either!
So I sit in the cruise now working on my own business plan on my laptop to hopefully leave in a years time, (time will tell)
if I could sell my ATPL for the £100k i paid for it tomorrow to some guy, I would not only take the money and run I would probably give him £10k back as a thank you.
I give up to much for FR!
The money is ok as I work a lot of hours, but the cost of those hours is missing so much in my REAL LIFE!
its like having two lives, one I work hard and pay all my bills but do nothing but recover after my days on, or I work not a lot and cant afford to do anything on my days off because of commuting and lots of extra expenses, the uniforms medical ID etc all eventually add up to real money!
Keep looking at jobs further afield thinking the grass will be greener, but I really just want to go home to the lads and a pint after work in the local, and EK are not going to offer that either!
So I sit in the cruise now working on my own business plan on my laptop to hopefully leave in a years time, (time will tell)
if I could sell my ATPL for the £100k i paid for it tomorrow to some guy, I would not only take the money and run I would probably give him £10k back as a thank you.
I give up to much for FR!
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Never fails to amaze me how, despite how they start out, these discussions always end up gravitating towards the same subject. Truely amazing.
Anyway, back to counting up my BRK hours.
Anyway, back to counting up my BRK hours.
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Xolon Im ex FR, left because I couldn't take the crap smoke and mirrors and the constant battle against management for a reasonable deal. Things have not changed from what I hear from friends still there and what I read. I am not unhappy with my company, and yes its EK. In fact I am very happy here
Every company has good and bad but FRs bad outweighs its good by far! I just had £11,500 bonus, a REAL 8.15% pay rise and I am not tired like I used to be in FR plus I earn more as an FO than I did as a captain. I honestly think you will see the light one day FR are all smoke and mirrors!
Every company has good and bad but FRs bad outweighs its good by far! I just had £11,500 bonus, a REAL 8.15% pay rise and I am not tired like I used to be in FR plus I earn more as an FO than I did as a captain. I honestly think you will see the light one day FR are all smoke and mirrors!
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