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Old 12th Jan 2011, 10:19
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virgin atlantic f/o salary

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I'm new in this forum, i always read but i never write
does anyone know if the salary of £46,884 per annum paied to a junior f/o is net? (i mean 3907£ evey month in my bank account??) if no.. how much is net per month?
How much are allowance? i know that are depending on destination but can i have an idea?how many days off per month?
It's just to compare with my actual italian contract,every reply will help me to decide UK or Italy?
Thanks!
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Mirko,

The £46k is GROSS. You will have tax deducted at source.

I don't have current figures for flight pay. Bet on approximately $800-1000 per month in allowances down route.
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tks!
and how much is net per month?
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Mirko,

It is very difficult for people to give a net figure, because it varies from person to person and depends on things such as their own personal tax code (the amount of salary allowed free of tax.) The amount of additional income they may receive, and the proportion of that income that is taxable. Pension contributions they may make, that are usually not included in the taxable element of their salary, and they will vary from person to person.

However with a very broad brush:

Using the figure you have mentioned of £ 46,884 gross
A normal UK tax allowance would be £6,475 (the amount you can earn before tax is payable.) The tax would then be £8,683.60 and the National insurance would be £ 4,248.44. This gives a total deduction of £ £12,912.04 leaving a net wage of £ 33,971.96 or £2,831.00 per month

This figure doesn't allow for additional deductions (pension, subscriptions, etc) nor does it allow for additional tax concessions such as FREA (fixed rate expenses allowance.) But it should give you a rough idea.
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In addition to this you also receive a payment depending on how many hours you fly in a month, currently about 17 pounds per hour for an FO.

So with an average of 62 hours a month this equates to another 1000 (ish) pounds per month, gross. deduct tax, NI etc and you get about 550 net.

A 6 year FO takes home ie. net between 3500 and 4000 pounds per month.
As mentioned above these figures can vary widely depending on pension contributions and your hours that month.
Hope that helps
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Hi,
tks to all now i have a better idea..
3Wings.. so with 6yrs experience u take about 3500-4000 pound net x month plus allowaces that are almost 1000 usd per months net? is that correct?
Bealzebub with ur message i undertand that taxes in UK are very high.. like in italy
tks
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Talking of high tax, try working in Denmark!
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Mirko,
yep, thats about right
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Hi Mirko1980
Is the £46883 figure you mention from ppjn?
I was reliably informed that FO starting salary is £48000
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Hi,
i don't know what is ppjn, hovewer i'm sure that starting salary is 46884 pound not more
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Which fleet are they hiring for? 400 or just the A340/330? Any difference in pay between the 400 and the A330 for newhire FOs?
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i talking about a340, i donw't know about 747.
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mirko1980

As I understand it, you have been to interview and are now in the holding pool awaiting a course date? if this is true, did you not do any preparation before the interview in terms of pay etc???? surely you should know how much the salary is of the job you applied to?

For info:-

A330 A340 and B747 are all in the same salary band, same allowances etc etc etc...

year 1 F/O basic pay before tax: £46881
flight pay before tax is currently at £13.36 per hour based on 750 hours
down route allowances are roughly $800 per month depending on trip pattern/destination etc so might be more/less

salary/flight pay subject to change depending on current ongoing pay talks!!!!!!!!
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its 16.76 per hour on my payslip, best you check yours!!
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quoted basic without EMFHP as its subject to company profit/loss (ROS)

did'nt want to confuse the poor chap anymore!!!
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Hi fast cruiser and 3wings

tks for clear reply!
you are almost right, i make interview but i understand that salary was net (in italy we usually talk about net salary not gross), few days ago talking about my interview with a friend he told me that probably salary was gross and this is why i ask to pprune and he was right!
Fast cruiser, sorry but i don't undestrand what you mean when u write:
"on current ongoing pay talks!!!!"
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Ouch… sounds like you need some pay talks
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felixthecat... to bloody right mate

mirko1980: basically our pilots union (Balpa) are in the process of negotiating a pay rise as the terms and conditions have been eroded dramatically over the last few years!!!!!
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Ciao to all! can i ask last few question??
- How many day's off per month?can I ask for example some consecutive day's off?
-what mean AFT 750 per annum write in contract?? Is there any salary increment with seniority?
- Is there any insurance, for licence loose, life insurance, etc?
What about roster? any stby? can i have an example??
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Scroggs gives a good outline of rosters and standbys in a typical virgin month on one of the stickies!!
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