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Heard about 10 positions going on A320 in Manc. The catch is they want type rated people to go on a permanent but part year contract, probably 8 on 4 off. It's this or they will just call CTC
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The union will push for a 9 on 3 off contract for 84% pay of a full time F/O. This is still yet to be decided and confirmed but 9 on 3 off sounds like a good option knowing how hard they work at Manch.
In anticipation of it being the next question a FULL TIME F/O starting pay is: £47305.
I therefore make a 9 on 3 off contract worth £39736pa and the 8 on 4 off option is approx £3200pa less.
In anticipation of it being the next question a FULL TIME F/O starting pay is: £47305.
I therefore make a 9 on 3 off contract worth £39736pa and the 8 on 4 off option is approx £3200pa less.
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9 months On / 3 months Off
It's different to a part time contract in that you will still be contracted to 90 flying hours per 28 days (100 if you choose to do overtime/day off working payments, DOWP for F/O = £412).
2 Sector days.
F/O Sector pay = £4.15 per Block Hour
PLUS
F/O Duty pay = £2.85 per Duty Hour
3 consecutive early starts as a maximum but this can be split by an 0700 start. An Early Start Duty commences in the period 0500 to 0659 hours local time.
2 consecutive night duties as a maximum. A duty is a Night Duty if any part of that duty falls within the period 0200 to 0459 hours local time.
Variable roster, no fixed pattern. Can expect to do 4 or 5 on with 2 off OR 6 on with 3 off.
If on a day off you have to finish duty by 2100L the night before and cannot start before 0800L the day after. Days off only count towards the monthly 10 days off if they are in blocks of 2 days together.
Basically ZERO nightstops.
It's different to a part time contract in that you will still be contracted to 90 flying hours per 28 days (100 if you choose to do overtime/day off working payments, DOWP for F/O = £412).
2 Sector days.
F/O Sector pay = £4.15 per Block Hour
PLUS
F/O Duty pay = £2.85 per Duty Hour
3 consecutive early starts as a maximum but this can be split by an 0700 start. An Early Start Duty commences in the period 0500 to 0659 hours local time.
2 consecutive night duties as a maximum. A duty is a Night Duty if any part of that duty falls within the period 0200 to 0459 hours local time.
Variable roster, no fixed pattern. Can expect to do 4 or 5 on with 2 off OR 6 on with 3 off.
If on a day off you have to finish duty by 2100L the night before and cannot start before 0800L the day after. Days off only count towards the monthly 10 days off if they are in blocks of 2 days together.
Basically ZERO nightstops.
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If I understand correctly, you may end up working 810 hours per year. ( 9 x 90) which is 90% of the legal maximum for 84% of the salary?
That's ignoring any leave; assuming it's 75% of the full time entitlement pro-rata? Are there leave day payments?
That's ignoring any leave; assuming it's 75% of the full time entitlement pro-rata? Are there leave day payments?
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Here a copy of the current pilots agreement - I think the 8 on 4 off OR 9 on 3 off option will be lifted directed from this:
MONARCH AIRLINES
AGREEMENT TO VARY THE STATEMENT OF TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT FOR PILOTS TO INCORPORATE ARRANGEMENTS FOR PART-YEAR WORKING
PREAMBLE
1. Part-year working will be on a voluntary basis and provides an opportunity for Pilots to work full-time during the summer months (May to October inclusive) and to take unpaid leave in the winter months. As an incentive for Pilots to take up the scheme, remuneration will be higher than it would be had it been pro-rated according to the duration of part-year leave taken. Additionally, remuneration will be spread evenly throughout the 12 month period, the reduced salary commencing during the first month of part-year leave. The minimum period of working part-year will be 12 months including a complete summer season.
2. There will be five available options:
7 On 5 Off Option comprising a seven month full-time period which will include the months of May to October inclusive and a five month continuous period selected from the months November to April inclusive. Remuneration will be 70% of full-time pay throughout the 12 month period.
8 On 4 Off Option comprising an eight month full-time period which will include the months of May to October inclusive and a four month continuous period selected from the months November to April inclusive. Remuneration will be 77.3% of full-time pay throughout the 12 month period.
9 On 3 Off Option comprising a nine month full-time period which will include the months of May to October inclusive and a three month continuous period selected from the months November to April inclusive. Remuneration will be 84% of full-time pay throughout the 12 month period.
10 On 2 Off Option comprising a ten month full-time period which will include the months of May to October inclusive and a two month continuous period selected from the months November to April inclusive. Remuneration will be 90% of full-time pay throughout the 12 month period.
Alternate month option for Pilots electing to take option (iii) or (iv) above they may also request to split the off period and work alternate month-on month-off. If this option is approved the off months must be selected from November, January and March.
8. LEAVE
(a) Pilots working within the provisions of this Agreement shall be entitled to the following amounts of leave to be taken within the working period of their Part- Year Working Year:
(i) 7 On 5 Off Option:18 Days (ii) 8 On 4 Off Option: 20 Days (iii) 9 On 3 Off Option: 23 Days (iv) 10 On 2 Off Option: 25 Days
(of which 8 shall be in lieu of Bank and Public Holidays), with pay during each year of service, to be taken at such time or times (not being of less than one week's duration each) as may be mutually agreed between the Company and the Pilot, except that at 10 days of this annual leave shall be granted in the summer period, which for the purposes of these conditions shall be from the week commencing the first Saturday in May to the week commencing the second Saturday in October. Leave must be taken in 5 day blocks (with two days off attached to both ends of each block). Days that are left over must be attached to winter leave or can be attached to the start or end of the PYW block. If the Pilot and the Company agree that the Pilot will take one week less summer leave the Pilot will be entitled to take the week and an extra weeks’ leave in the following winter. This extra leave is not a normal entitlement and cannot be carried forward from one leave year to another.
9. PAYMENT DURING SICKNESS OR DISABILITY
Payment during sickness and during disability other than disability arising out of an accident shall be made for the periods laid down in Schedule 'B'. The maximum entitlements to payments of salary during periods of sickness or disablement will include both the working months and the part-year leave months.
UNIFIED ANNUAL SALARY SCALE
Pilots working within the provisions of this Agreement will receive:
(i) 7 On 5 Off Option: 70.0%
(ii) 8 On 4 Off Option: 77.3%
(iii) 9 On 3 Off Option: 84.0%
(iv) 10 On 2 Off Option: 90.0%
of the rates of pay detailed in Schedule A, as amended, appropriate to their Grade,Scale and Rank.
2. FLYING HOURS The salary scales in paragraph 1 above are associated with the following restrictions
on flying hours:
(i) The maximum annual flying hours specified in the Company’s Scheme for the Regulation of Flight Times for Pilots working under the provisions of this Agreement shall be as follows:
(a) 7 On 5 Off Option: 525 hours (b) 8 On 4 Off Option: 600 hours (c) 9 On 3 Off Option: 675 hours (d) 10 On 2 Off Option: 750 hours
(ii) The maximum flying hours per rolling 28 day period specified in the Company's Scheme for the Regulation of Flight Times for Pilots working under the provisions of this Agreement shall be 90 hours. The 90 hour restriction shall not apply to any Pilots who have flown less than 26 sectors in the rolling 28-day period.
3. DAYS OFF AT ASSIGNED OR TEMPORARY BASE
Refer to the Pilot Scheduling Agreement for details of entitlement to Days Off.
During the part-year leave period, the Company will not require the Pilot to undertake any duties, except due to unforeseen circumstances where an unplanned or delayed duty extends beyond the planned start of the part-year leave period. In this event compensating Days Off will be allocated at the end of the part-year leave abutting the leave period, except by mutual agreement with the Pilot.
OTHER MISCELLANEOUS CHANGES
Death in Service Benefit
For all Pilots who are members of the Defined Contribution Pension Scheme or in receipt of the supplementary payment for Pilots aged 55 and over, this will be at the rate of 4 times the annual full-time salary appropriate to the individual’s grade, scale and rank.
For Pilots who commenced permanent employment on or after 1 November 2004 and who are not members of the Defined Contribution Pension Scheme, this will be at the rate of 1 times the annual full-time salary appropriate to the individual’s grade, scale and rank.
Payment for Day Off Working
Pilots are not permitted to nominate days within their part-year leave period as Flexi Days. However, exceptionally the Company may request that a Pilot works within his part-year leave block. In this case for each day worked the Pilot will receive a Day Off Working Payment according to the rules given in the Scheduling Agreement AND a Day Off in lieu in the following working part of the part-leave year.
Part-Year Leave Periods The available part-year leave periods are as follows (all dates inclusive):
1. 7 On 5 Off Option:1 November – 31 March 1 December – 30 April
2. 8 On 4 Off Option:1 November – 28 February 1 December – 31 March 1 January – 30 April
3. 9 On 3 Off Option:1 November – 31 January 1 December – 28 February 1 January – 31 March 1 February – 30 April
4. 10 On 2 Off Option:1 November – 31 December 1 December – 31 January 1 January – 28 February 1 February – 31 March
1 March – 30 April
5. Alternate Months Option
Any Pilot opting for the 9/3 or 10/2 option may request to take the time off in alternate months at the discretion of the Company. The working months must include;December February
AGREEMENT TO VARY THE STATEMENT OF TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT FOR PILOTS TO INCORPORATE ARRANGEMENTS FOR PART-YEAR WORKING
PREAMBLE
1. Part-year working will be on a voluntary basis and provides an opportunity for Pilots to work full-time during the summer months (May to October inclusive) and to take unpaid leave in the winter months. As an incentive for Pilots to take up the scheme, remuneration will be higher than it would be had it been pro-rated according to the duration of part-year leave taken. Additionally, remuneration will be spread evenly throughout the 12 month period, the reduced salary commencing during the first month of part-year leave. The minimum period of working part-year will be 12 months including a complete summer season.
2. There will be five available options:
7 On 5 Off Option comprising a seven month full-time period which will include the months of May to October inclusive and a five month continuous period selected from the months November to April inclusive. Remuneration will be 70% of full-time pay throughout the 12 month period.
8 On 4 Off Option comprising an eight month full-time period which will include the months of May to October inclusive and a four month continuous period selected from the months November to April inclusive. Remuneration will be 77.3% of full-time pay throughout the 12 month period.
9 On 3 Off Option comprising a nine month full-time period which will include the months of May to October inclusive and a three month continuous period selected from the months November to April inclusive. Remuneration will be 84% of full-time pay throughout the 12 month period.
10 On 2 Off Option comprising a ten month full-time period which will include the months of May to October inclusive and a two month continuous period selected from the months November to April inclusive. Remuneration will be 90% of full-time pay throughout the 12 month period.
Alternate month option for Pilots electing to take option (iii) or (iv) above they may also request to split the off period and work alternate month-on month-off. If this option is approved the off months must be selected from November, January and March.
8. LEAVE
(a) Pilots working within the provisions of this Agreement shall be entitled to the following amounts of leave to be taken within the working period of their Part- Year Working Year:
(i) 7 On 5 Off Option:18 Days (ii) 8 On 4 Off Option: 20 Days (iii) 9 On 3 Off Option: 23 Days (iv) 10 On 2 Off Option: 25 Days
(of which 8 shall be in lieu of Bank and Public Holidays), with pay during each year of service, to be taken at such time or times (not being of less than one week's duration each) as may be mutually agreed between the Company and the Pilot, except that at 10 days of this annual leave shall be granted in the summer period, which for the purposes of these conditions shall be from the week commencing the first Saturday in May to the week commencing the second Saturday in October. Leave must be taken in 5 day blocks (with two days off attached to both ends of each block). Days that are left over must be attached to winter leave or can be attached to the start or end of the PYW block. If the Pilot and the Company agree that the Pilot will take one week less summer leave the Pilot will be entitled to take the week and an extra weeks’ leave in the following winter. This extra leave is not a normal entitlement and cannot be carried forward from one leave year to another.
9. PAYMENT DURING SICKNESS OR DISABILITY
Payment during sickness and during disability other than disability arising out of an accident shall be made for the periods laid down in Schedule 'B'. The maximum entitlements to payments of salary during periods of sickness or disablement will include both the working months and the part-year leave months.
UNIFIED ANNUAL SALARY SCALE
Pilots working within the provisions of this Agreement will receive:
(i) 7 On 5 Off Option: 70.0%
(ii) 8 On 4 Off Option: 77.3%
(iii) 9 On 3 Off Option: 84.0%
(iv) 10 On 2 Off Option: 90.0%
of the rates of pay detailed in Schedule A, as amended, appropriate to their Grade,Scale and Rank.
2. FLYING HOURS The salary scales in paragraph 1 above are associated with the following restrictions
on flying hours:
(i) The maximum annual flying hours specified in the Company’s Scheme for the Regulation of Flight Times for Pilots working under the provisions of this Agreement shall be as follows:
(a) 7 On 5 Off Option: 525 hours (b) 8 On 4 Off Option: 600 hours (c) 9 On 3 Off Option: 675 hours (d) 10 On 2 Off Option: 750 hours
(ii) The maximum flying hours per rolling 28 day period specified in the Company's Scheme for the Regulation of Flight Times for Pilots working under the provisions of this Agreement shall be 90 hours. The 90 hour restriction shall not apply to any Pilots who have flown less than 26 sectors in the rolling 28-day period.
3. DAYS OFF AT ASSIGNED OR TEMPORARY BASE
Refer to the Pilot Scheduling Agreement for details of entitlement to Days Off.
During the part-year leave period, the Company will not require the Pilot to undertake any duties, except due to unforeseen circumstances where an unplanned or delayed duty extends beyond the planned start of the part-year leave period. In this event compensating Days Off will be allocated at the end of the part-year leave abutting the leave period, except by mutual agreement with the Pilot.
OTHER MISCELLANEOUS CHANGES
Death in Service Benefit
For all Pilots who are members of the Defined Contribution Pension Scheme or in receipt of the supplementary payment for Pilots aged 55 and over, this will be at the rate of 4 times the annual full-time salary appropriate to the individual’s grade, scale and rank.
For Pilots who commenced permanent employment on or after 1 November 2004 and who are not members of the Defined Contribution Pension Scheme, this will be at the rate of 1 times the annual full-time salary appropriate to the individual’s grade, scale and rank.
Payment for Day Off Working
Pilots are not permitted to nominate days within their part-year leave period as Flexi Days. However, exceptionally the Company may request that a Pilot works within his part-year leave block. In this case for each day worked the Pilot will receive a Day Off Working Payment according to the rules given in the Scheduling Agreement AND a Day Off in lieu in the following working part of the part-leave year.
Part-Year Leave Periods The available part-year leave periods are as follows (all dates inclusive):
1. 7 On 5 Off Option:1 November – 31 March 1 December – 30 April
2. 8 On 4 Off Option:1 November – 28 February 1 December – 31 March 1 January – 30 April
3. 9 On 3 Off Option:1 November – 31 January 1 December – 28 February 1 January – 31 March 1 February – 30 April
4. 10 On 2 Off Option:1 November – 31 December 1 December – 31 January 1 January – 28 February 1 February – 31 March
1 March – 30 April
5. Alternate Months Option
Any Pilot opting for the 9/3 or 10/2 option may request to take the time off in alternate months at the discretion of the Company. The working months must include;December February
Sounds like some great deals available, much better than many being offered or forced!!
Not sure how impressed management will be with you have published the Current pilots agreement for the world to see!!!
Not sure how impressed management will be with you have published the Current pilots agreement for the world to see!!!
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I've only published the bits that will be of interest to the potential new joiners/recruits. There are no secrets in there and nothing that is commercially sensitive.
Like I said earlier I am purely speculating that they will make any recruitment offers on the current PYW options that are in place for the work force.
If the PYW option seems attractive to people who are wishing to apply, and the management get bums on seats under their terms to fly their aircraft then I very much doubt they will mind the information being made available to people.
Like I said earlier I am purely speculating that they will make any recruitment offers on the current PYW options that are in place for the work force.
If the PYW option seems attractive to people who are wishing to apply, and the management get bums on seats under their terms to fly their aircraft then I very much doubt they will mind the information being made available to people.
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The best thing to do is keep an eye out on the website for details. The application form will be electronic and online as the company no longer accepts C.V's.
In the past they have asked for 2500 hours TT or 500 hours on a company aircraft type. I have no idea what the minimum requirements will be this time round.
Good luck as and when - It is a good company to work for and has a fantastic bunch of people to work with.
In the past they have asked for 2500 hours TT or 500 hours on a company aircraft type. I have no idea what the minimum requirements will be this time round.
Good luck as and when - It is a good company to work for and has a fantastic bunch of people to work with.
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Any full time Monarch pilots on here that can answer the following...
What is the take home pay with everything included/tax deducted?
How long is command in Monarch at the moment?
How long is it until Mixed fleet flying is available?
Thanks
What is the take home pay with everything included/tax deducted?
How long is command in Monarch at the moment?
How long is it until Mixed fleet flying is available?
Thanks
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Freedom of Information
Not sure how impressed management will be with you have published the Current pilots agreement for the world to see!!!
People ask questions at interview about this or that in the contract. If management thought they were such a great company to work for they could supply this information to the interviewee and save both parties some time.
I suspect however that anyone one asking for such information might be viewed with some suspicion, but why ?
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Monarch.
During the late 1990's I operated many flights subservice for Monarch with L1011 aircraft, on an as needed basis.
From what I could see of their operations, they were very professional in every respect (especially their dispatch department)...first calss folks.
During the late 1990's I operated many flights subservice for Monarch with L1011 aircraft, on an as needed basis.
From what I could see of their operations, they were very professional in every respect (especially their dispatch department)...first calss folks.