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Old 3rd Jul 2010, 21:24
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Question Turkish Airlines hiring First Officers

Hello everyone.

THY was hiring foreign Captains for quite a while now, since May they also have vacancies for the First Officers.

Any idea how life is there for a European F/O in terms of living in Turkey and flying in the right seat with Turkish Captains?

The (initial) pay is ca EUR 3800,- and the roster is 5/2/6/1

Only 18 days vacation increasing to 24 after five years with the company (and its a three years contract)

Any F/O considered joining/applied or has been to the selections and willing to share the experience (here or via PM)?

Many thanks in advance

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hiring europeans or do they take FAA guys?
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Minimum Requirements – B737NG & A320 First Officers:

• Current B737NG or A320 series type rating endorsement
• English Speaker; ICAO Level 5 (or) 650 or more in TOEIC (or) 750 or more in
TOEFL (IBT) (or) 6 or more in IELTS
• JAA /ICAO/ FAA F-ATPL / ATPL
• Minimum of 1500 hours total time of which 1000 hours should be on aircraft types
27 tonnes or greater of which a minimum of 500 hours should be on type (B737NG
or A320 series)
• Aged between 25 – 45
• Must have a Non Criminal Record
• Must have Nil Accident – Incident Record
• Must have a University Degree
• Recency on type (B737NG or A320) within the last 12 months
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The (initial) pay is ca EUR 3800,- and the roster is 5/2/6/1
Unless that's 5off/2on/6off/1on they must be taking the piss! Anybody who takes this contract needs to be shot!
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Dont worry mate, theres a lineup of pilots thatll take those T&Cs!
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Aussie,

You're almost correct old son.

There is a line of FO's willing to accept that money.

There is an acute shortage of well qualified, experienced, SAFE and reliable Captains coming this way rapidly though. This will be highlighted rapidly by the recruitment going on in the Middle East.

Sadly, it's always been this way. FO's are "10 a penny", Captains are slightly different.

And this recession has highlighted this ever more so I'm afraid.

Life in the RHS is tough. Especially now.
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Must have a University Degree

How many potential applicants are going to be cut out by that ?
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I have yet to see a reply posted by any First Officer who has passed the interview. I know a few very competant F/O who have had the interview and have not been offered the job. Even the Capts who were interviewed on the same day with lots of PIC were turned down.

Strange goings on I think What is it they are looking for as I'm off to the interview next month.

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Instead of hiring academics, they should take someone who intervenes when AT wants to stall on final!
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"Instead of hiring academics, they should take someone who intervenes when AT wants to stall on final!"

Oooooooh, that's going to leave a mark/hole/crater/indentation short of the runway.
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Metro man, you only need a highschool degree...Im going there next week
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got the T&C's and FO briefing yesterday and it clearly states University Degree as min. Once you're going there without one maybe THY is
not so picky about this?!
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Hmm strange. Got the first officer requirements from Wynnwith and it states minimum High School Diploma...
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I heard a Yank telling someone that THY has the FO's take some type of 5 hour(yes 5 HOUR) exam in which you must keep a circle in the square or square in the circle. Some type of co-ordination exam. Anyone know what that is? Is there such thing.
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Anybody has done the First Officer selection and can give us the details first hand?

In this forum or PM would be greatly appreciated.

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Yes, they are having a test like that, psychometric they call it, which has a duration of about 5 hours.
The next day there is an english test.
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Originally Posted by Skipping Classes

The (initial) pay is ca EUR 3800,- and the roster is 5/2/6/1

Only 18 days vacation increasing to 24 after five years with the company (and its a three years contract)

SC
If you actually flew that schedule you would almost certainly be doing over a 100 hrs a month. Doesn't Turkey have any maximum monthly/yearly flight hour restrictions ?
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Does anybody know the screenings process?
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Winwith beware!

you only need a highschool degree...Im going there next week


I went there a few month back with Winwith for a captain position, delt with a lady called Alpa, pointed out to her I did not have 4000 hours above 27t, she said not to worry...I trusted she knew something I didn't...
Arrived in front of the interview panel, one of the first question asked was to clarify my number of hours above 27T! and then they showed me their printed requirements.
Interview process stopped right there, wasted 4 days away from home, and worse, it looked like I wanted to cheat my way in to THY!

It was not the first blunder from Wynwith, they also messed up flight booking twice!
First time, the lady cancelled the interview after asking me to change my days off realized the flight shedules did not work,
Second time she booked the flight on the wrong day, so I ended up interviewing with THY straight after a 12 hours overnight flight without any rest!
You should really double check on the requirements, and not trust what the agency tells you, unless you just want a free sightseeing trip (IST is a very nice place to visit)

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First day, arrival in LTBA.
You go to the hotel (normally Radison Blu, by the airport, on short final 18),
which is paid by THY.
Next morning a small mini-van will pick you up, and after 10 minutes, you will arrive at a nice building, where HR is. You will stay 3 to 5 hours, waiting in the "harry and wait" room, till a nice lady asks you for your documents. Not all of them, but only License, Medical.
After waiting another 2 hours, and IF you are lucky, you will be picked up from this building, and will driven to thw SIM center, which is 15 to 20 minutes drive from there.
If not, you will go back to the hotel, and will be picked up, the next day, for the SIM center. Time depends upon rostering.
Sim is tricky, and they are looking for SOP'S primarily and CALL-OUTS.
For 737, study LTBA , and for 320-340, look carefully LTAC.
For Co-pilots, AFTER simulator, you will undergo a series of pshycotechnical tests, lasting approx. 5 hours. The next day, you will undergo a test in english , and finally, you will have the opportunity (if passed), to undergo an interview.
Commanders, after the simulator, they undergo an interview, straight-forward, with general questions, not technical ones.
If passed (both Cpts, Cpilots), they must spend one terrible day in the central police station, signing a bunch of papers, for their working permit.
You go home, and return after some days, to pass a medical test, through a
private hospital.
I don't know, if I answer to your question, but the primary you must have, is PATIENCE.
They work very-very-very-very-very slowly.
They are extremely polite, and willing to help.
Good luck!
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