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Old 3rd Jan 2010, 12:57
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New EasyCadets

Beak - I think this is more appropriate and somewhat apocryphal

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Old 3rd Jan 2010, 19:13
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I just can't wait to see the end of the crisis coming. EJ management are making people so disgusted they're digging their own grave to competitors' future satisfaction.
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Old 4th Jan 2010, 11:28
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An in-house type rating doesn't cost more than about 12k, so why aren't ezy doing that? Their trainers can't be working particularly hard right now as they haven't recruited anyone for a while. If the training is conducted by ezy then they don't pay VAT or the profits of the training organisation, plus they must get sim time at a reduced rate (I presum ezy don't have their own sims)? Where on earth does 34k come from? can anyone realistically break down and justify this amount of money?
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Old 4th Jan 2010, 12:50
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12k cost, 22k profit.
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Old 4th Jan 2010, 16:29
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Good answer KrisKross.
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Old 4th Jan 2010, 17:02
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65% profit margin, that's good business! the beancounters at Oxford and Easy must be rubbing their sorry hands.........
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Old 4th Jan 2010, 17:59
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Thanks AppleMacster.
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Old 4th Jan 2010, 20:01
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easyjet exellence

The start to a new year needs some positive news. I would like to say a massive thankyou to all the cabin crew and pilots at easyjet.

Your professional, dedicate commitment to exellence has produced a staggering result for the year 08/09.

This has probably been the worst recession since the depression of 1930
yet dispite several airlines going to the wall. easyjet have managed to increase turnover,passenger numbers, and profit per seat.

Due to your superb performance you have produced a profit in excess of 390 million. This would be considered a great performance in the best economic enviroment, but to produce this world class result in the current climate is quite remarkable.

As you are aware the company posted a profit of 54.7 million(source LSE)
This is due to another remarkable achievement , this time by management.
The management lost 330 million by hedging fuel at the wrong price.(source FT) therefor reducing our profit.

To all you hard working men and woman at the front line well done!
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Old 4th Jan 2010, 20:10
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I wonder if that will make the cadets who are being laid off this winter feel any better..
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Old 4th Jan 2010, 20:31
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or the guys given the option stumping up for an over priced type rating for part time work on poor pay ?
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Old 4th Jan 2010, 20:44
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No one forced them, they knew what the t & C's were...
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Old 4th Jan 2010, 20:49
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Thanks for that, my blood is boiling. It is the worst of the worst companies and not because of the crews.
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Old 4th Jan 2010, 20:54
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No one forced them, they knew what the t & C's were...
As did Bruce when he joined RYR on BRK contract but he still bitched like hell when it looked like he was going to be left out of ballot for BALPA recognition (he didn't want it)
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Old 4th Jan 2010, 21:00
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And we can all see how Easy can rack up such massive profits..... at the expense of the:
hard working men and woman at the front line
http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearme...n-academy.html
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Old 4th Jan 2010, 21:55
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No one forced them, they knew what the t & C's were...
paddingtonbear.

I said the ones given the option of, not the ones who took it.

vast difference.
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Old 5th Jan 2010, 00:53
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Propellerhead,

The trainers at easy are working very hard due to the lack of crews in the company. The trainers do fly the aircraft as well as training! That aside, I too have difficulty in arriving at 34k, though the VAT would have to be paid for by the end user, ie the pilot.

P.S. I'm not defending the scheme - it stinks.
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Old 7th Jan 2010, 05:28
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Where on earth does 34k come from?
from dad & mom !
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Old 7th Jan 2010, 16:50
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Is it true that OAA and CTC have changed the end of course training report for their graduates from one which was based on their flying ability, ground school results etc etc to one based on their credit rating.
e.g.
1= those with an excellent credit rating irrespective of their flying ability

2= good credit rating/reasonable flying skills

3= reasonable credit rating/good flying skills

4= little credit/excellent flying skills

5= no credit... must try harder irrespective of flying skills

This now seems to be the way forward!
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Old 7th Jan 2010, 18:46
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I know the last post was in jest (well, at least partly) but I do wish people would stop associating having financial ability with lack of flying ability. The two are NOT linked. There's as much truth in that as saying that anyone who Doesn't have cash is a brilliant pilot, or that people only go modular because they can't afford Oxford. All total cobblers. Anyone with even half a brain will understand that the either route, minted or skint will produce both great pilots and rubbish in equal numbers.

These assertions only cloud the issue and I can only assume they're some vain attempt to cover up for individuals inadequacies.
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Old 10th Jan 2010, 10:51
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