Validation Pilots put Icelandair and Jar pilots out work
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Rafael 767 Certainly not! But, this should have been then stopped a long time ago. That's why, I asked, do you have a wet lease, dry lease or an ACMI? In any European airline the first thing they will ask is: 1) do you have a JAA licence. 2) Are you a european national Or, do you have a work permit.
By the looks of things you guys fly with a validation to fly Eu registered A/C which has also a time limit. So, if you fly Eu registered A/C you must apply for the JAA licence within a year and a half and pass the relevant exams. It's the same for and EU licence holder and nationals who want to fly in China or else where. He must change over his licence to the local one. It's that simple and is, a way to check and control the diffrent pilots whom apply to foreign airlines. It also makes them legal to fly their A/C. Whether these 2 people that you mentioned and whom, are not favoured by most of the SB pilots it's, really a matter of taking up the situation with the persons whom made out the contract. Make them take up the situation with Smartlynk?
By the looks of things you guys fly with a validation to fly Eu registered A/C which has also a time limit. So, if you fly Eu registered A/C you must apply for the JAA licence within a year and a half and pass the relevant exams. It's the same for and EU licence holder and nationals who want to fly in China or else where. He must change over his licence to the local one. It's that simple and is, a way to check and control the diffrent pilots whom apply to foreign airlines. It also makes them legal to fly their A/C. Whether these 2 people that you mentioned and whom, are not favoured by most of the SB pilots it's, really a matter of taking up the situation with the persons whom made out the contract. Make them take up the situation with Smartlynk?
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Validation is NOT a work permit and should not be considered as one by the employers or employees.
As you can see the Santa Barbara Pilots can be validated as long as they meet the basic validation requirements. The maximum duration of validation is a year which after it can be renewed.
(3) The requirements stated in (1) and
(2) above shall not apply where aircraft
registered in a JAA Member State are leased
to an operator in a non-JAA State, provided
that the State of the operator has accepted
(a) Licences, ratings, authorisations,
or the period of lease the responsibility for
the technical and/or operational supervision
in accordance with JAR–OPS 1.165. The
licences of the flight crews of the non-JAA
State operator may be validated at the
discretion of the Authority of the JAA Member
State concerned, provided that the privileges
of the flight crew licence validation are
restricted for use during the lease period only
on nominated aircraft in specified operations
not involving a JAA operator, directly or
indirectly, through a wet lease or other
commercial arrangement.
As you can see the Santa Barbara Pilots can be validated as long as they meet the basic validation requirements. The maximum duration of validation is a year which after it can be renewed.
(3) The requirements stated in (1) and
(2) above shall not apply where aircraft
registered in a JAA Member State are leased
to an operator in a non-JAA State, provided
that the State of the operator has accepted
(a) Licences, ratings, authorisations,
or the period of lease the responsibility for
the technical and/or operational supervision
in accordance with JAR–OPS 1.165. The
licences of the flight crews of the non-JAA
State operator may be validated at the
discretion of the Authority of the JAA Member
State concerned, provided that the privileges
of the flight crew licence validation are
restricted for use during the lease period only
on nominated aircraft in specified operations
not involving a JAA operator, directly or
indirectly, through a wet lease or other
commercial arrangement.
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Dear Rafael767 & Paco Stand,
Yes, the foreigners (especially that idiot Canadian Fleet Chief) with no JAR Licenses and no EU work permits will leave SmartLynx next month. Their contracts will be terminated and you and Paco can then run the operation in a professional and safe European manner.
The aviation world will then be a safer and better place and you will be able to sleep better at night knowing that these 3 evil "non EU pilots" are gone
....
RWTY
Yes, the foreigners (especially that idiot Canadian Fleet Chief) with no JAR Licenses and no EU work permits will leave SmartLynx next month. Their contracts will be terminated and you and Paco can then run the operation in a professional and safe European manner.
The aviation world will then be a safer and better place and you will be able to sleep better at night knowing that these 3 evil "non EU pilots" are gone
....RWTY
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rwethereyet.
Firstly, This is not a rafael767 and paco stand. this is a stand from the majority of pilots in Santa Barbara and likely other european correctly qualified and out of work pilots.
Secondly, SB airlines can now get on with running our airline in a professional manner.
Thirdly, Evil PG is. As this validation/ non Jar requirements was initially taken up by some pilots to management. result.. those pilots were refused movement in the company (ie on to the 767) stopped by PG fleet manager. Result.. This post!
Fourthly. This post only demonstrates the arrogance, non professional conduct and back stabbing from the mauritius PG fleet manager. AS READING ALL THE PREVIOUS POST BY YOU rwethereyet!! IT SEEMS YOU ARE THE PG FLEET CHIEF.
Firstly, This is not a rafael767 and paco stand. this is a stand from the majority of pilots in Santa Barbara and likely other european correctly qualified and out of work pilots.
Secondly, SB airlines can now get on with running our airline in a professional manner.
Thirdly, Evil PG is. As this validation/ non Jar requirements was initially taken up by some pilots to management. result.. those pilots were refused movement in the company (ie on to the 767) stopped by PG fleet manager. Result.. This post!
Fourthly. This post only demonstrates the arrogance, non professional conduct and back stabbing from the mauritius PG fleet manager. AS READING ALL THE PREVIOUS POST BY YOU rwethereyet!! IT SEEMS YOU ARE THE PG FLEET CHIEF.
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Hey Rafael767.....yes I agree with you about that evil evil PG Fleet Chief.....I know him very well and believe that he is also responsible for the economic meltdown in Iceland, the H1N1 virus,most natural disasters that have occurred in the past 6 months, the rising cost of fuel, world unemployment and your Level 4 English....did I miss any other disasters 
Like I said, he will be terminated next month so that you and Paco stand and all the unemployed European pilots with JAR licenses can fly.....and you and Paco stand can walk hand in hand into the sunset with rose colored sunglasses.....the world will be a much much safer place
RWTY
Like I said, he will be terminated next month so that you and Paco stand and all the unemployed European pilots with JAR licenses can fly.....and you and Paco stand can walk hand in hand into the sunset with rose colored sunglasses.....the world will be a much much safer place
RWTY
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Closely related to the Devil
or maybe the man himself?
This thread is getting funnier every day. I know PG, but never saw him with a three pointed spear, surrounded by flames.
I think RWTY forgot to mention PG`s obvious responsibility for the war in Afghanistan, Ebola, and not to forget GLOBAL WARMING. Hell is probably getting hotter(than hell :-), emitting heat, warming the global climate.
Maybe this thread is ridicolous enough to end now ?
This thread is getting funnier every day. I know PG, but never saw him with a three pointed spear, surrounded by flames.
I think RWTY forgot to mention PG`s obvious responsibility for the war in Afghanistan, Ebola, and not to forget GLOBAL WARMING. Hell is probably getting hotter(than hell :-), emitting heat, warming the global climate.
Maybe this thread is ridicolous enough to end now ?
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I agree with you GS Willy but you also forgot the economic situation in Zimbabwe, Al Queda, Iraq, Palestine and last but not least 2012. Contrary to popular belief, it was the Mayans who predicted the end of mankind in 2012 but it is wrtten that it is the evil PG Fleet Manager/Chief who was behind all this!
RWTY
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Dear 747JJ, captjns, DA50Driver,MPH,NDB17, non iron,G.S.Willy, and Pilot125,
It's nice to read your well informed posts in regards to this thread. Hopefully there won't be anymore drivel from the other two who seem to be on a vendetta of some sort.
RWTY
It's nice to read your well informed posts in regards to this thread. Hopefully there won't be anymore drivel from the other two who seem to be on a vendetta of some sort.
RWTY
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Close the post!! Why? Truth hurts!! Seems like you are trying to smoke screen the issues here. The 3 are not properly licensed etc.. NOT a vendetta! Just need to get rid! As Classic74 said PG has been there before, stepping on his D*** is the norm!!
When he has gone, then this post will end.
Close the post!! Why? Truth hurts!! Seems like you are trying to smoke screen the issues here. The 3 are not properly licensed etc.. NOT a vendetta! Just need to get rid! As Classic74 said PG has been there before, stepping on his D*** is the norm!!
When he has gone, then this post will end.
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Hey Rafael767....where is your sidekick Paco Stand? Then you brave caped crusaders can rid this world of this evil evil PG and his band of merry non JAR, non European non licensed foreign pilots ...... so that another 3 evil evil non JAR,non European, non licensed foreign pilots can replace them 
I just have one question. Can you please tell me where you bought those rose tinted glasses?. I need a pair..... fashion statement, you know?
Sweet dreams little buddy
...... so that another 3 evil evil non JAR,non European, non licensed foreign pilots can replace them I just have one question. Can you please tell me where you bought those rose tinted glasses?
. I need a pair..... fashion statement, you know? Sweet dreams little buddy
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I noticed the two spanish guys have never mention anything about evil or blaming PG fleet chief for things going wrong. They seemed to object to Pilots not being correctly licensed and other correctly unemployed pilots being in Madrid or Iceland as such who could take up the positions.
If the island fleet chief wants to stay then why doesn't he just go and pay out do the jar license then everybody could be happy.
You must also understand the present aviation situation. I'm assuming thats why people are upset. people, pilots not liking each other is just life!! But, not having the correct license!
I noticed the two spanish guys have never mention anything about evil or blaming PG fleet chief for things going wrong. They seemed to object to Pilots not being correctly licensed and other correctly unemployed pilots being in Madrid or Iceland as such who could take up the positions.
If the island fleet chief wants to stay then why doesn't he just go and pay out do the jar license then everybody could be happy.
You must also understand the present aviation situation. I'm assuming thats why people are upset. people, pilots not liking each other is just life!! But, not having the correct license!
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I agree 100%. Paco and Rafael seem to be sciolists, and seem not to have better things to do. A long time since I did the first captain's check on PG, but he certainly showed something that these "gentlemen" do not...class and pizazze! A talented aviator by anyone's standards, his presence in this audience demonstrates one thing for sure...that those who cannot compete must resort to lowly tactics. It has been a long time since I have read these pages, and was most disappointed to see the level to which the discussion has denigrated. Time to grow up, boys.
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Sciolists! Comete! You're making me laugh now
Too many people know this PG fleet chief... lowest of the low.
Simple.. He has not the correct license. The Santa Barbara pilots don't want him here. And low low tactics is his speciality.
This post will soon end. Because the Latvian CAA have realized that they too have to comply with Jaa rules.
Too many people know this PG fleet chief... lowest of the low. Simple.. He has not the correct license. The Santa Barbara pilots don't want him here. And low low tactics is his speciality.
This post will soon end. Because the Latvian CAA have realized that they too have to comply with Jaa rules.
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Focus harder
Seems to me that the management knew what requirements were needed, and everything was done within those parameters. The wimpy complainers need to spend more time in the books sharpening their skills rather than moaning and dripping about things that are way above their pay grade.
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Dear Classic74.....All these unfounded remarks made by this ignorant not to mention mentally unstable Rafael767 doesn't deserve any more attention. He obviously doesn't understand how the licensing/validation process works for the respective JAR CAA's, in this case Latvia. Just for info, SmartLynx has recently been audited by the Latvian CAA with no findings regarding FCL.
Several other people in this thread have taken the time to properly explain to him this procedure and how this issue works.
Unfortunately due to his extremely limited knowledge this material becomes too difficult for his brain to process since he seems to have lost all sense of reality. Therefore he has to resort to lowly tactics.
Fortunately people have better things to do than waste time with sciolists like Rafael767.
RWTY
P.s: Ask yourself this, do the Santa Barbara pilots have the "correct licenses" to fly the SmartLynx aircraft?
Several other people in this thread have taken the time to properly explain to him this procedure and how this issue works.
Unfortunately due to his extremely limited knowledge this material becomes too difficult for his brain to process since he seems to have lost all sense of reality. Therefore he has to resort to lowly tactics.
Fortunately people have better things to do than waste time with sciolists like Rafael767.
RWTY
P.s: Ask yourself this, do the Santa Barbara pilots have the "correct licenses" to fly the SmartLynx aircraft?
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The validation conditions where quite clearly explained in the post above. The SBA crews are quite within legal bounds and entiteled to be issued a validation if the LCAA so chooses as long as the validation conditions such as lease of aircraft are met.
I will apply CRM to this: You gents need to have a good look at whats being showelled here, it is an incomprihesnive amout of sh.ait really.
There is a clear conflict here. Seems that there are both substansive and personalised agendas at work.
For Rafael, Paco et al. It is quite useless to throw the garbage around here and turn a substansive gripe you have into a shouting match on an anonymous bulletin board. If you have a valid professional complaint against certain fleet chief 767, take it up with the service provider, Smartlynx and at the end Loftleidir and Iceland Air group.
You are turning your issue into a personalised problem, where the english word is that you have an axe to grind with the individual. Regardless how right you are, you are doing yourself a great disservice and eroding your credibility.
Others involved in this buhaahaa. I recommend having a good look before getting involved and throwing one's money on the horse being flogged. PDM767. I agree. I have flown with the individual in question. No complaints there on his cockpit skills. But regardless how you look at it, being a good pilot and a good manager and a leader are totally different matters alltogether. I certainly do not want to get started on that subject. I have tried to remain objective and present my arguments without getting emotionally involved.
I will apply CRM to this: You gents need to have a good look at whats being showelled here, it is an incomprihesnive amout of sh.ait really.
There is a clear conflict here. Seems that there are both substansive and personalised agendas at work.
For Rafael, Paco et al. It is quite useless to throw the garbage around here and turn a substansive gripe you have into a shouting match on an anonymous bulletin board. If you have a valid professional complaint against certain fleet chief 767, take it up with the service provider, Smartlynx and at the end Loftleidir and Iceland Air group.
You are turning your issue into a personalised problem, where the english word is that you have an axe to grind with the individual. Regardless how right you are, you are doing yourself a great disservice and eroding your credibility.
Others involved in this buhaahaa. I recommend having a good look before getting involved and throwing one's money on the horse being flogged. PDM767. I agree. I have flown with the individual in question. No complaints there on his cockpit skills. But regardless how you look at it, being a good pilot and a good manager and a leader are totally different matters alltogether. I certainly do not want to get started on that subject. I have tried to remain objective and present my arguments without getting emotionally involved.
