Astraeus A320 Contracts
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fade to grey - if you have a problem about my 'continued bleating on about salaries', I suggest you read somewhere other than the 'Terms and Endearment' section of PPRuNe. Strangely enough, a lot of the people reading there are quite interested in that sort of thing.
Also, however difficult the situation may be at East Midlands, your analysis is somewhat inaccurate. Not a single person there will have to go to a job club if they do not want to as they will be offered alternative employment. And if they are currently fortunate enough to earn in excess of £100k (as a number of easyJet captains are), they will still be doing so at their new base. I know you find discussions about salaries unsavoury, but if you feel the need to make remarks on the subject, it is always good to check the facts first.
Also, however difficult the situation may be at East Midlands, your analysis is somewhat inaccurate. Not a single person there will have to go to a job club if they do not want to as they will be offered alternative employment. And if they are currently fortunate enough to earn in excess of £100k (as a number of easyJet captains are), they will still be doing so at their new base. I know you find discussions about salaries unsavoury, but if you feel the need to make remarks on the subject, it is always good to check the facts first.
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NSF - fair enough but does it not strike you as ironic to continue to complain about other people's T+Cs when your own employer is not doing so well.
furthermore I am not certain why you are involved in this thread at all - you clearly love your payslip from orange.com, were you expecting Aeu to offer some outlandish figure to lure you from them with your airbus 'expertise' ?
I don't think we have had problems recruiting sufficient people.
furthermore I am not certain why you are involved in this thread at all - you clearly love your payslip from orange.com, were you expecting Aeu to offer some outlandish figure to lure you from them with your airbus 'expertise' ?
I don't think we have had problems recruiting sufficient people.
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Hi Guys,
Does anybody know the likelyhood of Astraeus acquiring a third aircraft and consequently running another COO course?
Have heard rumours of an October course but was wondering how likely that was?
Cheers
SId.
Does anybody know the likelyhood of Astraeus acquiring a third aircraft and consequently running another COO course?
Have heard rumours of an October course but was wondering how likely that was?
Cheers
SId.
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I`ve heard a rumour that they may be doing more interviews.
We have read here what the pay is from PAS, but does anyone know what the T&Cs are for Astraeus captains? It would make an interesting comparison.
We have read here what the pay is from PAS, but does anyone know what the T&Cs are for Astraeus captains? It would make an interesting comparison.
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This topic has been done to death on here, don't mean to be rude, but there is plenty of verbiage on the thread already.PAS pay is tax free, therefore how can you make a reasonable comaprison?
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Interesting to note one of their existing dry lease B737 customers, Seagle Air, is making a gradual transition to an exclusive all Airbus operation. Maybe aeu will provide some of these aircraft?
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Why? the dry lease was for some old 733s, which must have been surplus to requirements by AEU, I can't see them leasing buses to sub lease out, doesn't make sense..Having said that, if the A320 becomes surplus or the 4 Lingus 320s due to come off line end of the summer, who knows..
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Jetman.
Just in case you didnt take my advise..........
Yes the PAS salary is paid gross but, correct me if I`m wrong, I always thought the figure at the top left corner of any pay cheque was gross. The sad, scrawny little number at bottom right is the nett.
Why do I want to do this? Well its simple really...............
She who will be obeyed has a nephew, well actually her sister Deidre (In Wiltshire, keeps a herd of prize Yaks........something to do with organic Mongolian butter.) Anyway, her nephew, young Scroggins Junior, ended up as an A320 driver for some brightly coloured mob. Unfortunately young scrogs fell foul of the jolly old Law.......a small misunderstanding with the management of The Savoy and an inflatable Blonde Virgin hostie by the name of Charlene..........a matter of some diamond jewellery of questionable provenence.......and the long term lease of a Lamborghini Murcialago, the owner of which failed to grasp the finer points of the lease agreement. Anyway, hence the fact that our young hero found himself languishing at HM`s pleasure in the jolly old `Scrubs`.
Displaying his customary enterpirsing spirit he signed up for a rehabilitation course sponsored by none other than the jolly old PM hiimself, our Gordie. The long and the short of it being that young Scroggins had a week of ground school, a few sessions in the fixed base sim and 4 in the real thing followed by an LPC /OPC. Well actually, the OPC was a bit tricky on account of how HM Prisions are a bit short on A320 SOPs!
Anyway..... Young Scrogs is due out any time now. The icing on dear old Gordons Angel Cake is that HMG must pay our chap for a year at the going rate, not working of course!
So we come to the jolly old rub of the matter...does he claim the PAS salary or the Astraeus one??
See, told you it was simple......just like popping off ducks on a pond with Pater`s old Holland and Holland!
Just in case you didnt take my advise..........
Yes the PAS salary is paid gross but, correct me if I`m wrong, I always thought the figure at the top left corner of any pay cheque was gross. The sad, scrawny little number at bottom right is the nett.
Why do I want to do this? Well its simple really...............
She who will be obeyed has a nephew, well actually her sister Deidre (In Wiltshire, keeps a herd of prize Yaks........something to do with organic Mongolian butter.) Anyway, her nephew, young Scroggins Junior, ended up as an A320 driver for some brightly coloured mob. Unfortunately young scrogs fell foul of the jolly old Law.......a small misunderstanding with the management of The Savoy and an inflatable Blonde Virgin hostie by the name of Charlene..........a matter of some diamond jewellery of questionable provenence.......and the long term lease of a Lamborghini Murcialago, the owner of which failed to grasp the finer points of the lease agreement. Anyway, hence the fact that our young hero found himself languishing at HM`s pleasure in the jolly old `Scrubs`.
Displaying his customary enterpirsing spirit he signed up for a rehabilitation course sponsored by none other than the jolly old PM hiimself, our Gordie. The long and the short of it being that young Scroggins had a week of ground school, a few sessions in the fixed base sim and 4 in the real thing followed by an LPC /OPC. Well actually, the OPC was a bit tricky on account of how HM Prisions are a bit short on A320 SOPs!
Anyway..... Young Scrogs is due out any time now. The icing on dear old Gordons Angel Cake is that HMG must pay our chap for a year at the going rate, not working of course!
So we come to the jolly old rub of the matter...does he claim the PAS salary or the Astraeus one??
See, told you it was simple......just like popping off ducks on a pond with Pater`s old Holland and Holland!
Jet.man: how is PAS pay tax free??
I understand that to work under PAS, one would be registered as self employed, but would still be liable to Income and NI tax at the end of the tax year.
Albeit this at a more favourable rate, but even so, its still taxable.
Please correct me if i'm wrong?
I understand that to work under PAS, one would be registered as self employed, but would still be liable to Income and NI tax at the end of the tax year.
Albeit this at a more favourable rate, but even so, its still taxable.
Please correct me if i'm wrong?
Hi Guys,
Does anybody have any more information on who/which airline the A320 contract is going to be for?
On the flystar website, they released a tw1tter mentioning basing crews in the middle east for winter.
Not sure if that was for existing 737 or 757 aircraft
Any ideas?
Does anybody have any more information on who/which airline the A320 contract is going to be for?
On the flystar website, they released a tw1tter mentioning basing crews in the middle east for winter.
Not sure if that was for existing 737 or 757 aircraft
Any ideas?
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It has now been confirmed that the client involved with the A320 is a certain Irish airline sporting a green livery. The scale of the operation still remains unclear but is rumoured to be as large as 6 to 8 aircraft.
As for the middle east. That is a contract for the 757 flying the Hajj pilgrimage and thus is unrelated.
As for the middle east. That is a contract for the 757 flying the Hajj pilgrimage and thus is unrelated.
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If ever there was a time for protecting pay and conditions this was it. Where does the 'take any job' you can argument end? If they are offering £25k a year for an Airbus captain, should the proud recipients of such an offer not be happy and honoured, lest they be on the dole instead? I would suggest we all know the answer to that quesiton. There is clearly a point at which we recognise that the pendulum has swung too much - the question is where to draw the line. My personal view is that Astraeus are a two-bit company with two-bit management whose possible success is a threat to our whole industry. I frankly do not want Astraeus and their fellow travellers to succeed - I wish to seem them well out of the Airbus market. They have nothing to add to our industry and have done a great deal to destroy people's futures. I genuinely feel sorry for the unemployed - but not sorry enough to tell them to take these jobs.
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Ah Rainboe - and all because you got bumped off an easyJet flight. Life is, alas, full of disappointments - if that is the only one you have then you will have led a blessed life indeed. There is actually some merit in your argument that times have changed. The knack is ensuring that everyone benefits from those changes and not just a few greedy managers.
Airwolf - could not agree more. The outrageous treatment of our cadets is a disgrace. No non-management pilot at easyJet likes it, but at this juncture it is a battle we are struggling to win. BALPA have approached CTC for 'discussions', but CTC is not interested. I trust they will become interested. EasyJet management ranting is basically that we need to reduce crewcosts very quickly or we are all doomed. I am more than a little amused to see that Rainboe agrees.
Airwolf - could not agree more. The outrageous treatment of our cadets is a disgrace. No non-management pilot at easyJet likes it, but at this juncture it is a battle we are struggling to win. BALPA have approached CTC for 'discussions', but CTC is not interested. I trust they will become interested. EasyJet management ranting is basically that we need to reduce crewcosts very quickly or we are all doomed. I am more than a little amused to see that Rainboe agrees.
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Kettle...pot...black
Also tiresome, Stansdead.
Rainboe makes valid points, and from experience. I share his experience, and wonder how much you may have gained thus far.
Rainboe makes valid points, and from experience. I share his experience, and wonder how much you may have gained thus far.